1 in 5 women get raped?

Freedom of expression issue.

Errr... I was precisely trying to find data and just posted a Huffington Post article which provided some if the figures you ask for... Did you read it before calling it a diversion?

The quote I copy-pasted gives a low estimate of one in 25 [college students who][/i]answered "yes" to the question "In your lifetime have you been forced to submit to sexual intercourse against your will?"[/i]; and a high estimate of one in six among 18 year old American males being victims of some form of sexual assault. Most likely, this 1 in 6 estimate is either a gross exaggeration or based on a wide variety of "assaults", not all of which I'd make a big fuss about. It all depends on what you include in the definition.

I'll try and find better estimates by looking for comparative studies. To me it's also a question of good research methodology. If a group of studies focus on female victims only, and another set of studies look at male victims only, the data may not be comparable across studies and genders, due to methodological differences (different samples and questionnaires used in different surveys). So to me mind, good gender-related research must collect and compare data for both genders using the same methodology. This has the further advantage of providing a check against gender biases within research agendas, teams and tools, which cannot be excluded but could be reduced that way...


I am not sorry at all. We were both drunk, 18, partying like mad in an isolated Brittany farmhouse rented for the weekend. **** is bound to happen when you mix too much hormones, Calvados, New Wave music and granitic landscapes...

That's precisely why we were there, of course, for some of this awkward sexual stuff to happen between us.

At some point of the night I was laying on the grass outside, recuperating shall we say, and this very good friend of mine, larger than I was by some noticeable measure (one reason for which I was not sexually attracted by her), laid next to me and quite soon over me, as she made clear even to my very dull self at that moment how much she loved me, by way of much kisses, rushed caresses, and what sounded like beautiful but hesitant words (she was a literature geek). It took me some time to extract myself from under her mass in a way that would not be too rude... She was a friend and i didn't want to hurt her any more than necessary. At the same time I was starting to feel seriously claustrophobic down there. So i got on my feet somehow, muttered some excuse and rushed back into the party and that was the end of that.

So, is that a "rape" or a "sexual assault"? Not in my book: we were both drunk, and maybe she pretended to be more drunk than she was but who cares? No harm was done to my glory hole or anything like that... Was just an awkward moment. We remained friends after that, of course.

Not sure I understand the relevance of this line of questioning, however... Do you usually ask A2K members who post about rape if they have been raped personally? I find that rude and unnecessary. People who have not been raped are nevertheless to speak about it, no?

And what difference would it make exactly, if my "assailant" had been male???? Was that just curiosity or were you going to make some kind of point about it?

So another words you weren't sexually assaulted. You were trivializing the assault of women on campus. Shame on you.

Such trivializing is indeed the result of including way too many things under the concept of rape. Let's cut the BS and call a cat a cat. Rape is forced sexual intercourse; it's not kissing or groping and it's not drunk sex either. Shame on you too.

Nonsense.............

You do not have a right to harassed another human being in that manner with freedom of expression as a shield and if a male have done anything approving that level of harassment he would had been thrown out of the college almost at once.

Drunk sex most certainly can be rape. Shame on you.

SLUT: The Play Performance in DC Was a Call to Action for Consent Education


Last night, SLUT: The Play, a powerful play about the realities of sexual assault in high schools, was performed for thousands at the Warner Theatre in Washington DC.



In attendance was Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senator Mark Warner (D-VA), House of Cards creator Beau Willimon, many advocates working to end sexual violence, and hundreds of local high school and college students. The multi-media play, which incorporates elements of social media and the lived experiences of real American teenagers,was performed by high school students and was followed by a panel discussion.

SLUT was written by Katie Cappiello and created by The Arts Effect All-Girl Theater Company in collaboration with New York City High school students after dozens of conversations and interviews with real teenagers about rape culture in American high schools. SLUT follows the journey of Joey Del Marco, a sixteen-year-old girl who is sexually assaulted by three friends during a night out. Through Joey’s narrative, with help from the girls in her community, the audience witnesses the damaging impact of “slut culture” and the importance for victims of sexual assault to be both heard and believed. SLUT and accompanying #StopSlut workshops have toured to great acclaim in locales as diverse as LA, NYC, and Fargo, North Dakota reaching repeatedly sold-out audiences of thousands.

“Theater teaches empathy,” said Winnifred Bonjean-Alpart, who has played the character of Joey for the past two years. Bonjean-Alpart spoke of the importance of addressing rape culture openly and comprehensively before students reach college.

“When it comes to activism, when it comes to really making a change, storytelling- the act of sharing voices- are by far the most effective means,” Cappiello said at the performance.
Although SLUT includes a national call-to-action, cast member Mary Miller told the audience one step each of them could take in combating rape culture. “If someone in your school says that she was raped,” said Miller, “believe her, and do it openly.” Miller and the entire cast emphasized that all genders are affected by rape and rape culture.

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http://feminist.org/blog/index.php/2015/05/20/slut-the-play-performance-in-dc-was-a-call-to-action-for-consent-education/

Of course you have a right to harass anyone by carrying your mattress wherever you want to. What's wrong with that. If you want to wear a t shirt saying "University of X, Y or Z doesn't care about rape", you can, at least in my book.

Since this line of questioning seems appropriate to you... Have you been raped, Bob?

No, I have not. White male privilege has its perks.

White males have been raped before...

Absolutely. White males have been raped before including by other white males.

My point is women are much more likely to be raped than men, and men are even more likely to be raped by men than women.

And by men with stronger skin pigmentations too; and by women too occasionally.


That's pretty obvious. So what? Rape is rape, whether homosexual or heterosexual makes no difference to the victim. If a woman rapes another woman, it's just as bad as if a man does so. This is not about men against women to me.

Let's not play the race card needlessly here; and let's not introduce double standards based on sexual orientation either... It's complicated enough.

Try following a woman student around the campus carrying a mattress and see what will happen to you in very very short order.

Not only would the college came down on your but there is a damn good chance that the local police would hit you with a criminal harassment charge.

Hell just following someone in a constant manner in an attempted to annoy would be grounds for a criminal harassment charge without any needs for a mattress.

Okay I'll try.

You'd manage about 5 yards before collapsing on it in a crumpled heap.

Oh? as I normally walked at least seven miles trice a week and a few miles a day in between walking the dog..

Hell the dog collar came off last week when he ended up fighting with a stay dog and I needed to picked him up and carry my 33 pound dog, home for the last mile or so.

I never realised you were so hunky. When did you last follow someone around carrying a mattress?

He can carry 33 lbs., I carry more in my purse.

BTW, I don't think she was following anyone with that mattress. She was just carrying it around in some sort of martyr theater.