@Frank Apisa,
Evidently, you can't face your own incoherence, or you would have answered Blue's question. Being incoherent and remaining unaware of it is your ultimate reality, Frank. That's why you know nothing of it...
@Frank Apisa,
We're saying: there's only one reality.
@Frank Apisa,
So you have two distinct and incoherent understanding of the same reality.
You assume that what you're trying to say is understandable to everyone and resort to petty nit-picking and put downs when pressed for further explanation of your assertions.
So far you've only explained that you differentiate "reality" when it comes to predicting Super Bowl winners and “reality” when it comes to musing about god, but you haven’t explained why you differentiate the two other than saying you can only laugh about it.
Further, you differentiate between “the reality” that you’re typing at your keyboard and are having a conversation in an internet forum and that each person is born and eventually dies from “the reality” of whether you exist or not (which contradicts your earlier assertion of “the reality” that each person is born and eventually dies—unless you have some other definitions of the words “exist,” “born” and “die”) and whether you are a manifestation of an eternal and infinite somethingness, and whether you came into being just an instant ago complete with all of your supposed memories (if you’re unsure of your memories how can you be sure about being at your keyboard typing, predicting Super Bowl winners?), but here again you don’t explain why you differentiate these things between reality and "REALITY" except to say that it’s other peoples’ problems if we don’t grasp this concept of yours.
You seem to assume that everyone should make these distinctions and that they are self-evident when the reality is that your assumptions couldn’t be further from the truth.
What presumption!
Someone opened the cuckoo's cage.
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:I am simply saying that I use the word "reality" differently in different circumstance. I do that same thing with the word "know"
You need two different 'uses' because you have two unreconcilable understandings of reality, and of knowledge.
@Olivier5,
Do you happen to know how many different realities each individual has? LOL
@Olivier5,
Subjectively the goalposts shift - The same as 'purpose/meaning'.
One man's treasure is another man's trash.
One man's meaningful is another man's pointless.
@mark noble,
That's not an answer to my question though. If men are not worth more than anything else, how much gold for a child?
@Olivier5,
I answered you - Depends on the beholder.
@Frank Apisa,
Beliefs about gods are also based on considerations, even when it’s damn near nothing, as you concede, or nothing at all. The considerations are also subjective, personal experiences, but they’re considerations nonetheless. You’re arbitrarily dismissing these considered beliefs in your assertions that they’re blind guesses.
What’s with the pics? Are you channeling your inner Romeo Fabulini?
You like me, you really like me!
Soul is a religious concept.
Now if you want a concise definition based in this religious word, then soul is your spiritual DNA.
A soul is a unique identification, and you can notice that in some religions that believe in re-incarnation, where the same personality of the former will come out in the new living.
While in some religions the soul is eternal, in other religions like the Judeo-Christian (when is interpreted properly) a soul can die.
From the branch of science, whatever that is not testable, objective, empirical, etc. it doesn't belong to science. So, for science the word soul can't be accepted. Perhaps a similar concept with a different name can be used, but if not objective, testable, or physically real, then is not science.
From the branch of philosophy, whoa! the soul and existence are two concepts that have been mixed like crazy. You can tell by reading the several opinions given here.
@mark noble,
Ok. So how much would YOU sell your children for? If you can't fin buyers wholesale, I hear you could make quite some money by selling them bit by bit on the live organs market...
I am trying to show that a purely materialistic outlook leads to pure horror. It cannot support a sense of ethics. A worldview in which men are worth no more than cattle leads to mass murders, holocausts and purges.
