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Realistic preparations for US Isis attack

 
 
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 03:35 am
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 11:13 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Do you have an altar where you light candles for Mr. Icke? Why don't you just link to his bullshit site? That way we all could become Ickebots.
Quehoniaomath
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 12:25 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Do you have an altar where you light candles for Mr. Icke? Why don't you just link to his bullshit site? That way we all could become Ickebots.



Yes, you can try to be in denial. I , among others, are trying to wake you up!

I am not PRO icke, I am pro his information on which I totally, after years of research, do agree.

Maybe try to do some reearch first.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 08:29 pm
I always enjoy coming back to a thread concerning a current event after a period of time has elapsed.

It's interesting how many people are so blithely confident of the security measures of this country. I don't, at all, think it's a coincidence that the most secure are fans of the current administration, and I bet that their confidence in their government was and would be less firm with a Republican in the White House. The lengths to which some people will shape their perception of reality to conform with the story of an outcome in which they are invested is amazing.

No matter what anyone thinks about the current administration, it certainly isn't entirely incompetent, and, thankfully, there remain non-partisan professionals carrying out their jobs on a daily basis. However, those members of the government who are subject to losing their jobs every four years are quite partisan and as respects this administration, very intent on viewing the world and its problems through a political prism designed to make their Boss happy (if not always looking good). Unfortunately, these people have an awful lot to say about how our government operates.

It appears that Obama is almost ready to acknowledge that ISIS is a Varsity threat, but efforts to reconcile current facts with his infamous JV Squad metaphor have been ongoing. (Witness the pulling back on dire warnings and assessments by government free radicals) What his intentions are for addressing ISIS is anyone's guess since virtually every statement he makes about them is incoherent and contains contradictions. He declares we will degrade and destroy ISIS and then moments later talks about reducing it to a manageable problem.

Compare and contrast his demeanor while speaking (unscripted) about ISIS with that in evidence during his Labor Day (scripted) speech to a Union rally. It’s two entirely different men.

The rhetoric of the first is confused and stilted, and the speaker appears either very tired or very bored. The rhetoric of the second is fluid and passionate, and the speaker appears energized and excited.

Granted, the settings for each speaker contributed to the style of the speeches, but there was still plenty of opportunity for Obama to be rhetorically more clear and forceful with his comments about ISIS. That he wasn't, strongly suggests that he cares more about raising the minimum wage than responding to the threat of ISIS. Ironically enough he has more personal influence over the latter than the former.

The truth of the matter is that he is far more vigorous in denouncing Republicans than Islamist terrorists.

This is scary. Not because he has any intention of doing to the GOP what needs to be done to ISIS, but because if the president of the United States doesn't have ISIS and the conflicts in that region in the forefront of his thoughts, the partisans who work for him will not, and the professionals who we have to rely upon to protect us will not be getting clear orders and necessary support.

The president enjoys playing Drone God and picking the names to be targeted for death by hellfire, but not only does it appear that he doesn't enjoy dealing with foreign affairs and matters of security, it seems he resents it. I think I'll send him a "I'D RATHER BE PLAYING GOLF” bumper sticker for his next birthday.

There have been recent reports concerning (of course) unnamed sources within the White House complaining about having to nag Obama about certain decisions. In matters of foreign policy and war, decisions delayed (like launching a rescue operation of the ISIS captured journalists) means people killed.

And whether or not you pin it to Obama, our security measures are not anything to be extremely confident in. Sure, we are not made aware of all of the plots that have been foiled (although if there is an administration willing to reveal classified information about such things to make the president look good, it's this one), but we are aware of the failures: Fort Hood, Boston, the Underwear Bomber, and the Times Square Car Bomber. The latter two were not successful attacks but this was due to luck not our security measures. In each of these cases, a fair argument can be made that our security agencies made mistakes. The bad guys were not criminal masterminds.

Finding reassurance in probabilistic armor (we each have a better chance of being eaten by rats than being killed by a terrorist) may be comforting, but is ultimately cynical and ignorant. Ignorant to the extent that each act of terrorism committed on US soil affects all of us and not just in terms of the sorrow and sympathy we experience concerning the unlucky few who die or are maimed. Another major event like 9/11 or a series of smaller events like 7/7 in the UK, will almost certainly send the stock market tumbling, and result in harmful economic behaviors. If the attacks involve planes, fewer people will fly, if they involve shopping malls, fewer people will shop, if they involve public celebrations, there will be fewer of those. In pursuit of greater security more liberties will be sacrificed.

The intent of terrorism is not only to kill or wound those directly affected by the act but to harm us all, to influence and limit our behaviors. The overwhelming majority of Americans survived the attacks of 9/11, but very, very few of us were unharmed by them.

We used to think "surely a full bearded Arab-looking man with sweat on his brow, and fanaticism in his eyes will never get past a security check-point," but then we learned that because of PC stimulated fear of profiling, he might. Now we have born and raised Americans who speak fluent Americanese, if not English, with US passports, and who may never have set foot outside of this country, lining up to hurt the Great Satan. Their numbers are relatively very small, but we know what one or two men with a mission to kill and destroy can do.

Realistically, wiping ISIS off the face of the earth isn't going to eliminate the threat of terrorist attacks on US soil, but it will be a big help.
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One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 08:36 pm
I have an idea.

Build a time machine.

Go back.

Don't step on their land.

Go back further.

Don't rationalize your internal problems - face them.

Go back further.

Don't live with pride; live with passion. Support the artist in us, not the conformist.

Go back further.

Love each other; not loathe each other.

Go back further.

Accept all differences.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:08 pm
@One Eyed Mind,
I have an idea.

Build a time machine.

Go back.

Don't step on their land.

Go back further.

Don't rationalize your internal problems - face them.

Go back further.

Don't live with pride; live with passion. Support the artist in us, not the conformist.

Go back further.

Love each other; not loathe each other.

Go back further.

Accept all differences.

Roll over and die.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:11 pm
@coldjoint,
You're just mad because you can't follow the steps, so you say something harsh, to hide the fact I struck a nerve in you.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:11 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Yes, you can try to be in denial.

I can do better than that. You got the wrong bad guy. There is no bargaining with Islam.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:15 pm
@coldjoint,
Just like there's no bargaining with you?

You and Islam have much in common.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:18 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Can't you see that these are plastic toys? Gheez
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:36 pm
@One Eyed Mind,
Quote:
You and Islam have much in common.


I am going to throw the Golden Rule flag. Islam has no Golden Rule. It is time they did.
One Eyed Mind
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:43 pm
@coldjoint,
You throw far more than a Golden Flag, I assure you.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:44 pm
@One Eyed Mind,
In what age did people live their lives as you describe? To what year will you dial your Way Back Machine?

This is typical New Age tripe.

It seems a lot deeper to the writer than the reader.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 09:48 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Oh, it hasn't happened yet, because stupidity is not one of the problems people deal with. You know what they say! People can't face, what they embrace.
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LvB
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 10:28 pm
@coldjoint,
oh, pumpkin. He is just following your lead in spamming.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 10:50 pm
@LvB,
Spamming?
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 11:05 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
Can't you see that these are plastic toys? Gheez


Duh? You got the joke? wow!

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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 7 Sep, 2014 12:05 am
@CalamityJane,
Come on Jane. Dont piss on their fun.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sun 7 Sep, 2014 04:32 am
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 7 Sep, 2014 10:55 am
@Quehoniaomath,
When do you think this guy will join isis and fly one of those planes to the U S of A and will you accompany him?
 

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