Israel's Reality

Someone has summed up my earlier post

Not if the bloodthirsty stormtroopers living next to you ARE the IDF.

And you are shooting rockets at their children. Palestine has no moral legs whatsoever.

Strange as I had yet to hear of any nation that would allowed would be murderers to fired thousands of 600 hundreds pounds warhead missiles over their borders.

Would you care to give us a list of such nations?

Bullshit. Stop the rockets.

The rockets do very little damage so perhaps Israel should just have ridden them out. That way world opinion would have swung in favour of Israel for showing restraint.
Instead, Israel chose to invade but I can't see what good it's done because Hamas will simply wait til they pull out back to Israel and then start rocketing and digging new tunnels again, and everything will be back to square one

Oh you think that a rocket with a 600 pound warhead with ball bearing surrounding the warhead would do little damage if it was allow to hit say an office building full of people?

You are insane as the rockets did little damage due to a great civil defense system, the iron dome missile defense system , air attacks on launch sites and luck.

At any moment the luck and or the reserve of interceptor rockets for iron dome could run out.

US congress just pass a emergency spending bill of two hundred millions to aid the Israel in replenishing those missiles so how many they now have let is an open question.

I guess a little girl with a pinata stick could do serious damage to a world class professional boxer also, Bill.

But if a little girl "attacked" a world class professional boxer and he responded to the "attack" by beating the little girl senseless...it would be appalling.

That, essentially, is what is happening. The Palestinians are almost powerless...their rockets, by your assessment and the assessment of almost everyone else, have failed to kill anyone except their own people. They have almost nothing else...except frustrated young foolish men throwing rocks at Israeli soldiers.

So the merciless slaughter of all the Palestinians has been nothing less than savagery.

Try to wake up and see the entire picture.

The latest figures show that Hamas has launched 3200 rockets at Israel this year, resulting in only 6 deaths and 41 injured, so militarily speaking the rockets are a complete waste of time and serve no useful purpose, Israelis have got more chance of being hit by a meteor!
By comparison 15,000 people have been killed on American roads so far this year..

Cease-fire takes effect to end Gaza war
Source: AP-Excite

By IBRAHIM BARZAK and PETER ENAV

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — An Israel-Hamas cease-fire, meant to last three days, went into effect on Tuesday in the Gaza Strip, setting the stage for talks in Cairo aimed at reaching a broader deal on a sustainable truce and the rebuilding of the battered coastal territory.

The temporary truce, agreed to by both sides, started at 8 a.m. (0500 GMT) and halted almost a month of fighting.

Israeli ground troops withdrew from the strip's border areas, the shelling stopped and in Gaza City, where streets had been deserted during the war, traffic picked up and shops started opening doors.

If the calm holds, Egypt plans to start shuttling between Israeli and Palestinian delegations in Cairo to work out new arrangements for Gaza. The territory has been virtually cut off from the world since a violent Hamas takeover in 2007 prompted a closure of the territory's borders by Egypt and Israel.

FULL story at link.



Israeli reserve soldiers are seen on the top of an armored personnel carrier returning to Israel from Gaza Strip, southern Israel, Monday, Aug. 4, 2014. A brief cease-fire declared by Israel and troop withdrawals slowed violence in the Gaza war Monday, but an attack on an Israeli bus that killed one person in Jerusalem underscored the tensions still simmering in the region as Israeli airstrikes resumed late in the day. (AP Photo/Tsafrir Abayov)



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Sharon made a major miscalculation not shaking hands with Arafat. He insisted on degrading Arafat and the PLO. Now Israel is dealing with Hamas and Hezbollah. "Better the devil you know". Like my grandmother used tosay.

Thank you, Romeo! Exactly right.

I'll bite. How many Israelis died from meteor strikes this year. By your statement, it absolutely must be more than six.

Lord are you that dumb or do you think the readers of this thread are that dumb?

First such weapons have no military purpose like the German V1 and V2 they are terror weapons and nothing more and nothing less.

Without the counter methods that Israel have taken including strikes on the launching sites there is no reason to think that such weapons can not do a similar job of killing people as the V2 did on the people of London during WW2.

Around ten thousands or so deaths if memory service me correctly in London alone.

The Palestinians rockets "only" have 600 hundred pounds warhead compare to a ton for the V2 but they had already have launch roughly half of the amount of high explosives as the London V2 campaign deliver on London.

But once more please please please list the nations that you would think for a second would go along with your suggestion of allowing someone to shoot thousands of such rockets of that type across their nation borders!!!

Problem is, invading Gaza might have temporarily stopped the rockets and destroyed the tunnels, but when Israel pulls out Hamas will simply start firing rockets again and digging new tunnels, so all the lives lost--Palestinian and Israeli-- will have been for nothing.
Hitler was different, we did D-Day, overan his rocket and flying bomb launch sites and defeated the German Army.
Hamas is different because they're mixed in with the civilian population and difficult to root out.
And their rocket launch sites are simply back yards and orchards which they switch around all the time and can't be pinned down.

Well until the Palestinians turn on Hamas and stop this silliness of launching missiles they are the ones who will just have to bear most of the price.

As far as moving around the launch sites that is nothing new as V2 was launch from mobiles vehicle launchers also.

Launch crews can still be killed as the response time for Israel warplanes can not be more then a few minutes even if the killing of the launch crews is likely to be damn hard on the Palestinians population.

They are going to have trouble building new tunnels with the blockade tightened back up.