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Israel's Reality

 
 
buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:02 pm
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Fear and trembling: Western media and Hamas
We are all aware of the willful blindness of Western media when reporting on Hamas in Gaza. Though it's no excuse, what may not be so clear is that many of the journalists are also terrified of telling the truth

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Every few years, Israel is seemingly overcome with an insatiable lust for blood that can apparently only be satisfied with otherwise inexplicable attacks on Gaza -- or so innocent consumers of Western media are likely led to conclude from the coverage of the conflict.

With depressing regularity, each military confrontation between Israel and Hamas triggers the same old, tired cycle of misinformation among much of the international media. Instead of providing much-needed context, Israel’s defensive war against Islamist terrorists hiding among their own civilians is turned into a simplistic morality play where, like in a sports match, the side with the higher score, i.e. casualty figures, wins.

No decent human being could not feel compassion and sorrow over the scores of dead Palestinian civilians. But the almost pornographic close-ups of injured and killed Palestinians without explaining the central role Hamas plays in their deaths and injuries do more to confuse then enlighten the public.


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5136/fear_and_trembling_western_media_and_hamas



buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:19 pm
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/UN1.jpg

Sure it is.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:25 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

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That is the real problem, Izzy.
There is no place to go where it is safe.


And this is one of the chief reasons Israel's actions will be labelled war crimes waged against the vulnerable Palestinians with nowhere to escape;


Fat lot of good that will do. Israel is not a signatory of the ICC, so the only way its leaders could appear in front of the ICC is with a Security Council resolution.

Despite John Kerry's humiliation, America was the only country to vote against a UN resolution to establish an investigation by the United Nations into war crimes committed in Gaza. Just a few days ago America released a huge load of ammunition already stockpiled in Israel. That's absolutely no indication that America will stop using its veto on Israel's behalf.
buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:28 pm
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buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:37 pm
@buttflake,
Instead of voting the post down why don't you explain why such a ludicrous statement is of any value? Do you actually believe it? If that is the case you do not have any rational argument, do you? Whoever you are, you are hiding like a terrorist yourself.
buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:44 pm
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10492452_781267265258653_3517145494716313821_n-e1406867449166.jpg
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buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:45 pm
@buttflake,
The terrorist strikes again. Cowardly actions are what you support, at least you are walking the walk.
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buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 12:55 pm
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Screenshot-2014-07-12-at-9.42.11-AM.png
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buttflake
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 01:16 pm
http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2014/07/25/15/30/1h2r0H.St.56.jpg
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 02:03 pm
Israel wants to bring Hamas to battle, but Hamas know they wouldn't be able to beat Israels superior firepower so they're lying low and blending in with the civilian population.
Some people including me have called it "human shields" but on second thoughts it might simply be a military tactic.
Thee's an old fighter pilot saying- "Don't fight in the way your enemy wants you to fight".
Israel wants Hamas to come out and fight in the open, but Hamas are naturally saying "No way hozay"..
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 02:08 pm
As King Pyrrhus of Epirus once noted:

"One more victory like this...and my ass is grass!" (Or something along those lines.)

If I were Bibi Netanyahu, I would hold off on the champagne no matter how this thing resolves.


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Olivier5
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 03:44 pm
@buttflake,
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No decent human being could not feel compassion and sorrow over the scores of dead Palestinian civilians.

Are you a decent human being, butt? I haven't seen you express much compassion about the massive toll on Palestinian civilians....
RABEL222
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 04:29 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Wow!! I bet it takes an Isralie tank almost 20 min. to drive 25 miles. I think you just proved Izzys point if one has a thinking brain who is reading here and can think.
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RABEL222
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 04:36 pm
@Olivier5,
Neither he or Romio are close to human. More akin to vultures just like the Isralie priminister.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 04:46 pm
@izzythepush,
Gaza (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) is occupied Palestinian territory under international law, determined by the vast majority of the world, as well as the highest court in the world, the UN’s International Court of Justice. Gaza cannot commit aggression against Israel, since Israel is in constant and continual commission of illegal aggression against Palestine by occupying it (illegally and sadistically blockading it and frequently committing terrorism against its civilians, including by targeting them with chemical weapons provided by US taxpayers – see “Rain of Fire” by Human Rights Watch). As documented by Amnesty Int’l, Human Rights Watch, and many others, Israel intentionally targets and murders civilians, including children, en masse.
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izzythepush wrote:
Fat lot of good that will do. Israel is not a signatory of the ICC, so the only way its leaders could appear in front of the ICC is with a Security Council resolution.


There is nothing the US government can do to prevent academic institutions from pulling their funds from any Israeli business, etc.

Regardless the outcome, the current Israeli massacre of the Palestinians is labelled a war crime. I am still hopeful that the BDS will work its magic. It's a possibility that many Israeli leaders might be arrested if they try to travel to Europe, given time.

Europe’s largest teachers’ union endorses Israel boycott call
http://www.bdsmovement.net/2014/europes-largest-teachers-union-endorses-israel-boycott-call-12039#sthash.WPMlg8F4.dpuf
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Proposals for academic boycotts of Israel have been made by academics and organisations in Palestine,[1] the United States,[2] the United Kingdom,[3] and other countries to boycott Israeli universities and academics. The goal of proposed academic boycotts is to isolate Israel in order to force a change in Israel's policies towards the Palestinians which proponents state to be discriminatory and oppressive, including oppressive to the academic freedom of Palestinians.[4]

The ultimate goals and the mission of the academic boycott align with those of the greater BDS movement, calling for international pressure to be placed on Israeli academic institutions, which are understood by PACBI to be implicated in the perpetuation of Israeli occupation, in order to achieve those goals.[5][6]
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More––>

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/24/israels-war-against-bds-movement/

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izzythepush wrote:
Despite John Kerry's humiliation, America was the only country to vote against a UN resolution to establish an investigation by the United Nations into war crimes committed in Gaza.


The US always does that, thus insuring there will never ever be justice in this ME conflict. The US is consistently on the side of the rogue Zionist nation; it's almost akin to a religious experience.; in reality, it's money, blackmail and politics with oil, the US central interest at the core.

BTW: Did you ever read:

The Israel Lobby, by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt? You may google it if you like. I have it in my computer archive. Below is a sample.....

"For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering support for Israel and the related effort to spread ‘democracy’ throughout the region has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world. This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries was based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives, but neither explanation can account for the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the US provides."
izzythepush
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 05:05 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
When Israeli companies have access to American military high tech, and companies like Apple invest in Israel an academic boycott will have limited effect. Israeli football clubs can still play in European competitions, and the national team can still compete in the World Cup. Despite not being remotely European Israel still enters Eurovision, and Israel enjoys favoured nation status when dealing with the EU.

With apartheid South Africa, the cricket and rugby boycotts really hit home, those artistes who played Sun City had scorn heaped on them when they returned. Those things had a cumulative effect on the white SA psyche. There's nothing like that with Israel. There's still plenty of Israeli produce in the shops.

Nothing will change until Western, and especially American, politicians find that supporting liability is an electoral liability, and we're a long way from that happening.

I do applaud your efforts, and observe the boycott myself, but I just don't think there's going to be any changes happening soon.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 06:33 pm
Images of Gaza Devastation - a picture can destroy a thousand lies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsgVrQPCMAIHHh7.jpg

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article372843.ece/alternates/s615/09183EC6-F0A2-9501-43283ABD2AAE2FF0.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/30/article-2710868-2021053A00000578-95_964x643.jpg

http://www.rnw.nl/data/files/images/lead/020109-Gaza-ANP-8922909_0.jpg

http://www.sana.sy/en/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Israeli-aggression-on-Palestinian-people-July-2014-1.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 06:38 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
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Israel gives advance warning about which areas of Gaza are going to get hit, but the Gazans still seem to hang about in there with their kids


Well isn't that special. One minute before attacking they warn.

You're on the wrong side of this.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 07:31 pm
Netanyahu Tells U.S. 'Not To Ever Second Guess Me Again' On Hamas
AP | By MATTHEW LEE
Posted: 08/02/2014 8:20 am EDT Updated: 08/02/2014 9:59 am EDT

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MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Following the quick collapse of the cease-fire in Gaza, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the White House not to force a truce with Palestinian militants on Israel.

Sources familiar with conversations between Netanyahu and senior U.S. officials, including Secretary of State John Kerry, say the Israeli leader advised the Obama administration "not to ever second guess me again" on the matter. The officials also said Netanyahu said he should be "trusted" on the issue and about the unwillingness of Hamas to enter into and follow through on cease-fire talks.

The Obama administration on Friday condemned "outrageous" violations of an internationally brokered Gaza cease-fire by Palestinian militants and called the apparent abduction of an Israeli soldier a "barbaric" action.

The strong reaction came as top Israeli officials questioned the effort to forge the truce, accusing the U.S. and the United Nations of being naive in assuming the radical Hamas movement would adhere with its terms. The officials also blamed the Gulf state of Qatar for not forcing the militants to comply.

With the cease-fire in tatters fewer than two hours after it took effect with an attack that killed two Israeli troops and left a third missing, President Barack Obama demanded that those responsible release the soldier.

Obama and other U.S. officials did not directly blame Hamas for the abduction. But they made clear they hold Hamas responsible for, or having influence over, the actions of all factions in the Gaza Strip. The language was a distinct change from Thursday when Washington was focused on the deaths of Palestinian civilians.

"If they are serious about trying to resolve this situation, that soldier needs to be unconditionally released as soon as possible," Obama told reporters. He added that it would be difficult to revive the cease-fire without the captive's release.

"It's going to be very hard to put a cease-fire back together again if Israelis and the international community can't feel confident that Hamas can follow through on a cease-fire commitment," he said. His comment reflected uncertainty in the U.S. and elsewhere that Hamas was actually responsible for the incident or if some other militant group was to blame.

At the same time, Obama called the situation in Gaza "heartbreaking" and repeated calls for Israel to do more to prevent Palestinian civilian casualties.

Despite the collapse of the truce, Obama credited Kerry for his work with the United Nations to forge one. He lamented criticism and "nitpicking" of Kerry's attempts and said the effort would continue.

Kerry negotiated the truce with U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon in a marathon session of phone calls over several days while he was in India on an official visit. Kerry had spent much of the past two weeks in Egypt, Israel, the West Bank and France trying to mediate a cease-fire with Qatar and Turkey playing a major role because of their close ties with Hamas.

Those efforts failed with Israel saying it could not trust Hamas and some Israelis and American pro-Israel groups complaining that the U.S. was treating the group — a foreign terrorist organization as designated by the State Department — as a friend.

Late Thursday, however, Israel accepted Kerry and Ban's latest proposal, despite its reservations. Once the truce was violated, though, Israeli officials hit out at not only Hamas, but the United States and Qatar for its failure.

An Israeli official said the Netanyahu government viewed both Hamas and Qatar as having violated the commitment given to the U.S. and the U.N. and that it expected the international community to take practical steps as part of a "strong and swift response," especially regarding the return of the abducted soldier.

In a phone call with U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, Netanyahu vented his anger, according to people familiar with the call.

Netanyahu told Shapiro the Obama administration was "not to ever second-guess me again" and that Washington should trust his judgment on how to deal with Hamas, according to the people. Netanyahu added that he now "expected" the U.S. and other countries to fully support Israel's offensive in Gaza, according to those familiar with the call. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter by name.

They said Netanyahu made similar points to Kerry, who himself denounced the attack as "outrageous," saying it was an affront to assurances to respect the cease-fire given to the United States and United Nations, which brokered the truce.

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AP National Security Writer Lara Jakes at Ramstein Air Force Base, Germany, contributed to this report.
RABEL222
 
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Sat 2 Aug, 2014 09:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
This is the kind of **** you never see on the front page of a U S of A newspaper which is why this two faced bastard gits away with being a murdering racist backed by our government.
 

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