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Israel's Shame

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 04:01 pm
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-15/israel-renews-gaza-bombing-after-hamas-rejects-cease-fire-plan

Israel renewed its air raids on the Gaza Strip after a Palestinian rocket bombardment left an Egyptian truce proposal the Israelis accepted in tatters.

Hamas, the militant movement that controls Gaza, said it wasn’t consulted on the Egyptian plan, and its military wing rejected it. Within six hours, the cease-fire efforts crumbled after Gaza militants barraged Israel with 50 rockets, according to the Israeli army’s count. The renewed attack left one Israeli dead, the first in eight days of fighting, while more than 190 Palestinians have been killed by Israel.

The failed truce heightened the possibility that Israel, which has mobilized 38,000 reservists, would send ground forces into Gaza. “Hamas leaves us no choice but to respond,” Netanyahu said at a press conference in Tel Aviv late yesterday. “We will not stop until we have rid Israel of the threats.” Earlier in the day he said that if Hamas doesn’t accept the truce, “Israel will have the international legitimacy to broaden the military offensive.”
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 04:16 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Of course, there are going to be Palestinians militant enough to oppose their oppression with violence.


Then why is there such crying when their violence in met with greater but better focus violence?

Becasue there are many civilian casualties that result from this "better focus violence" as opposed to poorly focused violence that, so far, hasn't killed anyone.

BillRM wrote:
They might try working peacefully with Israel after failing to achieved must in generations but for far more suffering of their own people then the Israel people.

The Palestinian Authority has tried working peacefully with Israel to no avail. Their respective aims cannot be reconciled. The Zionists want all of Palestine but does not want to recognize the Palestinians' Right of Return or a viable Palestinian state.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 04:17 pm
@BillRM,
That's old news. The most important news are; 1. stealing of Palestinian lands and property by the Jews, and 2. Palestinians do not have equal rights in Israel. They can't even travel freely in Israel.

Any people losing all hope of equality will divert their attention to killing off their enemies who treat them with hatred and violence. The number of innocent Palestinian children killed by the Jews vs Israeli children killed by the Palestinians is the proof. The Jews of Israel do not have humanitarian laws that provides for equal rights of all its citizens.

Jews want Palestinian lands and property without any sort of consequence, and the US is party to those crimes.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Palestinians do not have equal rights in Israel. They can't even travel freely in Israel.


Nor can Mexicans in the US South West travel freely but maybe we should give back the south west and California by your logic.

In 1948 the Palestinians who picked the wrong side lost any so call rights to Israel while those who did not are citizens.

By the way the murderers who are launching all those missiles are tying to killed anyone in Israel not just jews.

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The number of innocent Palestinian children killed by the Jews vs Israeli children killed by the Palestinians is the proof


Not to mention the large number of Jewish children and other Jews killed by the suicide bombing that was only stop by all those check points and other interfere to the poor Palestinians movements.

Proof of what that the Palestinians leadership is putting their own children and others in harm way by placing missile launcher and other weapons of war next to their homes?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:08 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Nor can Mexicans in the US South West travel freely but maybe we should give back the south west and California by your logic.


The Mexicans who were living in California at the time it became part of the USA were granted American citizenship. The Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip when Israel invaded are pretty much stateless.

Your logic, like your grammar, is full of holes.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:10 pm
It's a good day.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0715/631008-bazzi-lebanon/
A Lebanese man suspected of being involved in the abduction and murder of two Irish soldiers on UN peacekeeping duty in Lebanon in 1980 is facing deportation from the United States.

Privates Thomas Barrett from Cork and Derek Smallhorne from Dublin were part of a UN convoy taken captive in southern Lebanon in April 1980 by members of the Israeli-backed South Lebanon Army.

A third Irish soldier, John O'Mahony from Killarney, Co Kerry said he was shot and wounded by Mahmoud Bazzi before his two comrades were driven away.

Justice for murdered Irish peacekeepers


Justice for murdered Irish peacekeepers
Both men were found shot dead nearby, with their bodies showing signs of torture.

Mr Bazzi moved to the US shortly afterwards and was living in Detroit.

However, a campaign led by former army comrades and relatives of the men has sought his deportation to Lebanon to face war crimes charges.

In a statement issued to RTÉ News, US authorities said Mr Bazzi was arrested by federal agents at his home in Dearborn in Michigan for "administrative immigration violations".

He will be held in custody pending removal proceedings.
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usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Israel is the biggest terrorist organization. It is not a country because they want to extend their boarders. See the sentence written on the supreme court wall of israel.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:14 pm
@izzythepush,
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The Mexicans who were living in California at the time it became part of the USA were granted American citizenship. The Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip when Israel invaded are pretty much stateless.


They move out of Israel proper in 1948 to wait until the four or five armies drove the Jews into the sea.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:20 pm
@izzythepush,
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The Mexicans who were living in California at the time it became part of the USA were granted American citizenship


Only many decades later and if there had been ongoing terrorists attacks by the Mexicans somehow I do not think that Citizenship would have been granted

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http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/od/Mexican-AmericanWar/p/The-Treaty-Of-Guadalupe-Hidalgo.htm

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was a bonanza for the United States. Not since the Louisiana Purchase had so much new territory been added to the USA. It would not be long before thousands of settlers began making their way to the new lands. To make things even sweeter, gold was discovered in California shortly thereafter: the new land would pay for itself almost immediately. Sadly, those articles of the treaty which guaranteed the rights of Mexicans and Native Americans living in the ceded lands were often ignored by Americans moving west: many of them lost their lands and rights and some weren't officially given citizenship until decades later.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:40 pm
@BillRM,
Yes, it seems the Jews are constantly attacking Palestinian lands by their settlements. That you won't or can't acknowledge this criminal activity is YOUR PROBLEM. Nobody else in a democracy has to fear the takeover of their property by Jews or anybody else. There are international laws against stealing other people's property. The only reason it can continue in Israel is that the Zionists have our government's support.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:04 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

They move out of Israel proper in 1948


They were driven out.

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The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian Arab village of roughly 600 people. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem by Palestinian forces during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.
Around 107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes. Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem, though accounts vary. Four of the attackers died, with around 35 injured. The killings were condemned by the leadership of the Haganah—the Jewish community's main paramilitary force—and by the area's two chief rabbis. The Jewish Agency for Israel sent Jordan's King Abdullah a letter of apology, which he rebuffed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So the solution over land disagreement is many hundreds of rockets launch into Israel at random??

Somehow random attempted to kill civilians in large numbers would seems more of a misdeed then seizing lands under so call international laws.

As far as I am concern the right to defend your people lives would grant the right for Israel to seized and bulldozer every buildings in the Gaza Strip if that what it take to end the threat to their citizens.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:17 pm
@BillRM,
Don't get too stupid. The Palestinians have lost most things that are valuable to them; their homes, their self-esteem, jobs, and freedom to travel in their own country.

What more can the Palestinian's lose?

What you would do in similar circumstances is probably live like sheep and get swept into the Med.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:18 pm
@izzythepush,
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They were driven out.


Bullshit as you can find all kind of examples of bad behaviors on both sides but millions was not driven out but follow the advice of Arab nations to leave Israel until the five or six armies of those nations could drive the Jews into the sea,
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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heir self-esteem, jobs, and freedom to travel in their own country.


They ruin their own damn economic by forcing Israel not to allow free trade and movement of workers and goods into and out of Israel due to terrorism.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:25 pm
@BillRM,
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Sadly, those articles of the treaty which guaranteed the rights of Mexicans and Native Americans living in the ceded lands were often ignored by Americans moving west: many of them lost their lands and rights and some weren't officially given citizenship until decades later.


Another shining example of the perfidious nature of the USA and many USians. Perfidy is as American as apple pie.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 06:39 pm
@izzythepush,
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A lot of people try to reason with JTT. I tried it for years before putting him on ignore.



You're a pathetic, pathological liar, Izzy.

Here's you on,

Thu 21 Mar, 2013 12:29 am

in the following thread;

http://able2know.org/topic/210848-1#post-5283568


"I've learnt a lot from JTT, not so much Finn. Although Finn can be a lot of fun when he wants to. I disagree with most of what he says, but I'd still buy him a beer."
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:22 pm
i always figured Pauly Shore was Israel's shame
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:47 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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They were driven out.


Bullshit as you can find all kind of examples of bad behaviors on both sides but millions was not driven out but follow the advice of Arab nations to leave Israel until the five or six armies of those nations could drive the Jews into the sea,

Wow, you know your Zionist propaganda pretty well. Actually though, the Zionists had specific plans, e.g. Plan Dalit, to cleanse the areas that came under their control of Arab inhabitants. "Transfer" they called it.

The armies that attacked Israel responded on behalf of the beleaguered Palestinians to the civil war that had ensued in Palestine following the UN declaration of its partition plan to the time that the British ended its Palestine Mandate and evacuated Palestine.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:51 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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heir self-esteem, jobs, and freedom to travel in their own country.


They ruin their own damn economic by forcing Israel not to allow free trade and movement of workers and goods into and out of Israel due to terrorism.

Were the Zionists to honor the Palestinians' rights all of that would be a non-issue.
 

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