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Israel's Shame

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 08:21 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Well they might as well try negotiations as terror attacks have only results in far worst situation for themselves over the decades.

They surely are not going to gain anything by their current course of conduct but more suffering for their people.

The closing of the border, the port and check points everywhere was a direct result of the Israel reacting to ongoing terrorism by the Palestinians.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 09:43 am
@BillRM,
Since you're not the one losing your freedoms, land, dignity, water, home, hospitals, schools, and legal rights, you can continue to show your total ignorance of how the Jews are treating the Palestinians.

Zionists may think they are superior, but only in terms in their ability to kill more innocent Palestinians.

The world is watching. That you people are so crass will not be overlooked by the people of this world.

Soon, people will wonder why we were all so disgusted with the holocaust.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 09:47 am
@cicerone imposter,
You still have never explained why your focus is so narrow, CI.

Since you're not the one losing your freedoms, land, dignity, water, home, hospitals, schools, and legal rights, you can continue to show your total ignorance of how the USA is, has been treating tens of millions around the world.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 10:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The world is watching.


Too bad that the world was not watching in the 1930s to 1940s is it not?

The "Zionists" turn their nation into a first class economic power even carrying the handicapped of needing to maintain a first class military.

The only way the Palestinians are going to have a brighter future is to turn away from murders to attempt to get their ways.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 10:25 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
The "Zionists" turn their nation into a first class economic power even carrying the handicapped of needing to maintain a first class military.


Yeah, amazing what 3 billion per year in USA "aid" can do for a country. So many of you do so well at maintaining a world class ignorance - must be that American exceptionalism.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 10:58 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
The Palestinian Authority has tried peaceful negotiations and that hasn't changed the current land arrangement of the nation of Israel either.

Unfortunately the Palestinian version of peaceful negotiations involves trying to kill the children of the opposing negotiators.

The Palestinian Authority has done no such thing.

Strange how Israel is always the one making genuine offers of peace, and the Palestinians are the ones who are always trying to murder children.

Israel makes offers of peace to the Palestinians that suit its own purposes, the subjugation of the Palestinians in order to maintain its ethnocentric state "for the Jews."

If "the Palestinians are the ones who are always trying to murder children" then the Israelis are the ones who are always murdering children.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 11:02 am
@InfraBlue,
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... then the Israelis are the ones who are always murdering children.


With material aid and the full support of the USA, Infra. How come this little detail gets left out?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 11:08 am
JTT, Your mental illness attention at the mental institution.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 11:24 am
@cicerone imposter,
Your eloquence is truly a thing of beauty, CI.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
@Foofie,
You wrote,
If you have such a morally correct position, why are you talking to private citizens, when the world capitals do nothing?



Quote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Simply because the US promised to support the Israelis, and no country in this world is going to challenge the US. At least, not yet.


Israel is the superpower in the Middle East because of US desire for hegemony in the region. Via of Israel the US has sought to established a predominant influence to protect its oil interests. Thereby, Israel is given billions annually, a tiny nation the size of New Jersey with only 6/7 million Israelis; not only that, any country Israel propagandize as seeking to get the nuclear bomb is cause for the US to take notice. During the Iraq war, the NEOCONS tried its best to get the US to bomb Iran. The NEOCONS were the ones responsible for the lie "Saddam Hussein had WMD" which was articulately defined rhetorically by the Neocon Condoleezza Rice, then W's National Security Advisor.

"Since the end of World War II, U.S. relations with Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states have been based on securing the terms of trade on oil that our government, and American oil companies and banks, desire. Where regimes were friendly to our interests, we propped them up militarily. Where regimes did not want to deal, or did not agree to our terms, and wanted to control their own oil production, set their own prices, and determine for themselves how profits were used, we supported insurrection and in some case, instigated it. The U.S. has a 'special relationship' with Israel, which is not an oil-producing state, but which is seen as a 'friendly' nation, and as a potential staging area for actions against nations in the region deemed not to be so 'friendly'."

Author: U.S. Hegemony in the Middle East
Women Challenge US Policy in the Middle East
by Tura Campanella Cook
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cicerone imposter wrote:
Why are you asking such stupid questions?


Simply put, some posters don't delve deep enough to get at the root cause of the problem.

There is something seriously amiss when the US allow Israel to target hospitals when in reality the Palestinians simply do not have ANY PLACE TO HIDE, NO WHERE TO RUN, THEY ARE LIKE SITTING TARGETS, and still the Secy of State, Kerry, says the Israelis have every right to defend themselves from rocket attacks.

I say tell the ISRAELIS TO STOP STEALING THESE POOR VULNERABLE PEOPLE'S LAND! The Palestinians have every right to fight the occupiers into their land who with the aid of the superpower, the US, is allowing Israel to do whatever she want to do to these defenseless people without an army and no where to run!
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:29 pm
@InfraBlue,
Strange is it not how the Palestinians are always willing to fight to their last women and children?

They can not kill more then a handful of Jewish men, women and children but they could save their own women and children by stopping the launching hundreds of missiles or at the very least stop having their women and children setting on top of their missiles launchers but they think more highly of getting fools like you to cry for them then the lives of their own women and children.

I guess they figure that they got enough women and children so it does not matter to them.

The question that does come to mind is why we should care more for their women and children then they do?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:33 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
People who defend Israel just aren't able to place themselves in the same situation as the Palestinians. That speaks volumes about their ignorance and inhumanity. It's despicable.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:36 pm
@BillRM,
The Gaza strip is heavily overcrowded, there's nowhere to run. Israel is like a school bully, but even a school bully gets tired of being hit back. Imagine how much worse the persecution would be if they didn't fight back. The people of Hebron aren't firing any missiles, and look what's happening to them

This film was made by Israeli vets horrified about what was going on in Hebron, and the fact that nobody in Israel was being told the truth. I don't expect you to watch it, you'd rather stick your head in the sand, but other people aren't so blind.

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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:38 pm
@BillRM,
You've never been one to let facts get in your way, Bill. That's very American if you.

---------------

As Amnesty International has noted, all aid to Israel is illegal under international (and US) law, because Israel is a consistent violator of human rights.
Amnesty International also noted that Israel’s 2009 massacre of Gaza would not have been possible without the illegal funding (money and weapons) and support Israel gets from the USA.

This is also true of the current massacre Israel is committing in Gaza.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:40 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
Simply put, some posters don't delve deep enough to get at the root cause of the problem.


Hypocrisy sure is as American as apple pie, isn't it, MiT? Do you have no shame or are you just that thick?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Simply put, some posters don't delve deep enough to get at the root cause of the problem.


Right after mit's stunning hypocrisy, CI trumps her.

Quote:
People who defend Israel just aren't able to place themselves in the same situation as the Palestinians. That speaks volumes about their ignorance and inhumanity. It's despicable.


Unbelievable!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
People who defend Israel just aren't able to place themselves in the same situation as the Palestinians. That speaks volumes about their ignorance and inhumanity. It's despicable.


No I surely can not placed myself in the shoes of murderers who idea of fighting a conflict is suicide bombings of innocent men and women and children on buses and other public places or firing blindingly thousands of missiles into cities with no military purpose for doing so.

InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:55 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Strange is it not how the Palestinians are always willing to fight to their last women and children?

They can not kill more then a handful of Jewish men, women and children but they could save their own women and children by stopping the launching hundreds of missiles or at the very least stop having their women and children setting on top of their missiles launchers but they think more highly of getting fools like you to cry for them then the lives of their own women and children.

I guess they figure that they got enough women and children so it does not matter to them.

The question that does come to mind is why we should care more for their women and children then they do?

Because the morality of their militants does not determine ours.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:56 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
firing blindingly thousands of missiles into cities.


The history of the USA, Bill, except the USA has ample resources to pinpoint civilian bombings and then do the propaganda that they are kind and benevolent. Really you oughta learn some USA history.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2014 12:58 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Because the morality of their militants does not determine ours.


Nor does their actions of placing their own people in harm way should interfere with the right of Israel to protect that nation women and children from would be murderers.
 

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