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Israel's Shame

 
 
Foofie
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 10:15 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Foofie wrote:

So?

So regardless of these analogies, the Palestinians have the Right of Return.


So do the Cubans, so do Mexicans, and so do Native Americans. Not the Palestinians, since they will not "return" to Israel as loyal citizens, in the opinion of many present Israelis. Sort of like resettling ex-Nazis in London, after WWII, in my opinion.

Don't you have better things to do in SC? Aren't there any Civil War Reenactments to see?
JTT
 
  3  
Fri 18 Jul, 2014 10:21 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
sort of like resettling ex-Nazis in London, after WWII.


The USA had no problem resettling ex-Nazis in the USA after WWII, Foofie. They aided and abetted their escape from justice and brought them into the evil USA fold.
Foofie
 
  1  
Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:01 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
sort of like resettling ex-Nazis in London, after WWII.


The USA had no problem resettling ex-Nazis in the USA after WWII, Foofie. They aided and abetted their escape from justice and brought them into the evil USA fold.


I knew they were utilized here. The largest ethnic group in the U.S. are German-Americans. However, since WWI, they played down their ethnicity to just be Americans, since in WWI there was such rabid anti-German sentiment.

Anyway, German nationals can always find a friendly demographic in the U.S., due to the number of German-Americans, and a few other un-named demographics that have found Germany a role model of snappy uniforms.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:07 am
@Foofie,
It's not about 'snappy uniforms.' It's about what they have been able to accomplish after WWII. The majority of Germans and their government has apologized for their country's wrongdoing, and have paid billions in reparations.

They have recovered from the war in first rate manner - not only by their reconstruction but economically. They have become the strongest economy in Europe. Quite a feat when their countries major cities were in complete destruction and chaos after the war.
Foofie
 
  1  
Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's not about 'snappy uniforms.' It's about what they have been able to accomplish after WWII. The majority of Germans and their government has apologized for their country's wrongdoing, and have paid billions in reparations.

They have recovered from the war in first rate manner - not only by their reconstruction but economically. They have become the strongest economy in Europe. Quite a feat when their countries major cities were in complete destruction and chaos after the war.


You are off the point that JTT and I were involved in. Germany is not my concern. Europe might have issues with their success, not me.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:14 am
@Foofie,
I don't read JTT's posts - maybe 99.9% of the time. He's a ******* bore with only one message.
BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's about what they have been able to accomplish after WWII. The majority of Germans and their government has apologized for their country's wrongdoing, and have paid billions in reparations.


One wonder when the damn Palestinians are going to stop trying to get their way by murdering Jews let alone apologized for their actions.

The only different between the Nazis and the Palestinians leaders are that the Jews are one hell of a lot stronger then the Palestinians and the Palestinians are far weaker then the third Reich of the 1930-40s.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 11:26 am
@BillRM,
Your one-sided, ignorant, myopia only proves you to be an inhumane piece of turd.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
According to some sources, there are 700 leaders of Hamas in Israel with an estimated 10,000 members. Palestinians in Israel numbers over 1.6 million.

The Zionists of Israel are ready to kill many more innocent Palestinians over the 10,700 Hamas members. To anyone with any sense of fairness and humanity, killing 84% more innocent Palestinians (based on Israelis killed) should be clear that Zionists are the real terrorists.

BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The Zionists of Israel are ready to kill many more innocent Palestinians over the 10,700 Hamas members.


If the leaders placed weapons of war that are trying to killed Israel citizens in the backyards of Palestinians I would suggest they have a talk with their leaders or move away from those weapons on their own, as for the hundred and one time Israel have a right to take out those threats to their citizens no matter how many Palestinians are setting on top of them.

In fact if it was not their own history of the holocaust I would think that they would had not been as gentle as they have been in ending this attempts to murder their peoples.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:41 pm
@BillRM,
Have you ever tried talking to any extremist organizations? LOL You're an idiot!
BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Your one-sided, ignorant, myopia only proves you to be an inhumane piece of turd.


An you are an anti-semitic of the worst kind by claiming that Jews do not have a right of self defense.
izzythepush
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:46 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
An you are an anti-semitic of the worst kind by claiming that Jews do not have a right of self defense.


Nobody said Israel does not have the right of self defence, they do. They do not have the right to occupy the West Bank, blockade the Gaza Strip or subject the Palestinian people to daily persecution of the worst kind.

They definitely do not have the right to force women to give birth at checkpoints resulting in the deaths of newborn babies and mothers.

What sort of sick nation could ever view a woman in labour as a terrorist threat?
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BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Have you ever tried talking to any extremist organizations? LOL You're an idiot!


That the problem for the Palestinians to deal with and the last I hear the "extremists" are the duly elected leaders in the GAZA strip
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:21 pm
@BillRM,
No, it's not. You're expecting something that no other can accomplish - including you. Any proposal beyond common sense has no validity, but people like you don't understand the difference.
BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
LOL so the people have no responsible for the actions of their own duty elected leaders that no one so far are claiming they are not supporting!!!!!!!!!

Yes they are innocent just as the bulk of the German people somehow did not have a clue of the millions of murders being done in their names in the 1930s-1940s.

As after all killing Jews is no big deal in any case and there is only a problem when the Jews dare to act in self defense.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:37 pm
@BillRM,
You wrote,
Quote:
LOL so the people have no responsible for the actions of their own duty elected leaders that no one so far are claiming they are not supporting!!!!!!!!!


What the government does is beyond the people's control. GW Bush got our country into an illegal war with Iraq, and was supported by congress because they trusted GW Bush and his gang of criminals lied that Saddam had WMD's.

WMD's were never found, and our country ended up killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, and almost 4 thousand Americans.

If you start removing your head from your arse to see some daylight, you might understand that once members are elected into office, not much can be done to remove their power. The three branches of government is supposed to make sure they all follow the Constitution, but that supreme law of the land no longer applies. They have all failed their responsibilities. The latest performance evaluation of the American people against congress is the lowest in history, and Obama's rating is 38% approval.

What can YOU DO, since you believe you have power.
BillRM
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yes sir. so the best outcome is for Israel to go into Gaza and free those poor innocent Palestinians of their leaders who are daring to try to do mass murders in their names by either killing those leaders outright or taking them into Israel and try them for terrorists acts.

Bet the "innocent" Palestinians will be very happy to have those would be mass murders removed from power over them and thankful to Israel for doing so.

InfraBlue
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:53 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

You're castigating the entire Palestinan population for the actions of the militans among them. That's merely a rationalization to deny the Palestinians their rights.


The Palestineans that stayed in Israel in 1948 are Israeli citizens. By leaving, to clear a path for advancing Arab armies, they gave themselves the identity of siding with the invading Arab armies. Invading Arab armies are sort of militant?

Invading Zionists armies from Europe were even more militant, ethnically cleansing the areas that came under their control of their Palestinian inhabitants, "transfer" they called it, until they achieved a "managable minority" of Palestinians therein.
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InfraBlue
 
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Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:58 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Foofie wrote:

So?

So regardless of these analogies, the Palestinians have the Right of Return.


So do the Cubans, so do Mexicans, and so do Native Americans. Not the Palestinians, since they will not "return" to Israel as loyal citizens, in the opinion of many present Israelis. Sort of like resettling ex-Nazis in London, after WWII, in my opinion.

Don't you have better things to do in SC? Aren't there any Civil War Reenactments to see?

Why would anyone in their right mind be loyal to a regime that, in order to exist, necessarily oppresses them?

I hear SC is nice, like night and day compared to the Chihuahuan Desert. So, have you played in the open fire hydrant where you're at?
 

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