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Our Hearts Are Breaking

 
 
usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 03:38 am
The brave newscaster showing reality of America and Israel.
http://www.merapakistan.tv/2014/07/11/brave-newscaster-showing-reality-america-israel/
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usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 03:40 am
@oralloy,
Muslims are Terrorists?
Who started the 1st World War? Muslims?
Who started the 2nd World War? Muslims?
Who threw nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Muslims?
Who kills approximately 20 million aborigins in Australia? Muslims?
Who kills more than 100 million red indians in North America? Muslims?
Who kills more than 50 million red indians in South America? Muslims?
Who took about 180 million Africans as slaves and kills 77% of them? Muslims?

When America takes 1 million lives in Iraq for oil - Not terrorism
When Serbs rape muslim women in Kosovo/Bosnia - Not terrorism
When Russians kill 200,000 chechens in bombing - not terrorism
When Jews kick out Palestinians and take their land - Not terrorism
When American drones kill entire family and Afghanistan/Pakistan - Not terrorism
When Israel kills 10,000 lebanese civilians due to two missing soldiers - Not terrorism
When Muslims retaliate and show you how you treat us - TERRORISM?

IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORD "TERRORISM" IS ONLY DESERVED FOR MUSLIMS.

TERRORIST IS NOT A RELIGION
YOU ARE ALL STUDY AT THE GREAT UNIVERSITIES BUT YOUR STUPIDITY NEVER END
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 09:08 am
@usmankhalid665,
usmankhalid665 wrote:
Muslims are Terrorists?

Yes.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
Who started the 1st World War? Muslims?

WWI was started by idiocy.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
Who started the 2nd World War? Muslims?

WWII was started by the winners of WWI (due to the unfair conditions that they imposed on the vanquished).


usmankhalid665 wrote:
Who threw nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Muslims?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were wartime strikes on military targets.

Terrorists target civilians.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
Who took about 180 million Africans as slaves and kills 77% of them? Muslims?

Yes. Muslims were responsible for much of the slave trade.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When America takes 1 million lives in Iraq for oil - Not terrorism

America did not kill more than 20,000 (if even that), and we set up a democracy and then left.

We did not try to seize any oil.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When Serbs rape muslim women in Kosovo/Bosnia - Not terrorism

The poor Serbs were merely trying to defend themselves from Islamic aggression.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When Jews kick out Palestinians and take their land - Not terrorism

That is Jewish land, not Palestinian land. But indeed, the only terrorists there are the Palestinians.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When American drones kill entire family and Afghanistan/Pakistan - Not terrorism

Indeed. Wartime strikes against military targets are not terrorism.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When Israel kills 10,000 lebanese civilians due to two missing soldiers - Not terrorism

10,000? Nonsense.

But yes, wartime strikes on military targets are not terrorism.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
When Muslims retaliate and show you how you treat us - TERRORISM?

Muslims are not retaliating. Islam is the aggressor. The rest of the world is merely defending itself.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORD "TERRORISM" IS ONLY DESERVED FOR MUSLIMS.

The IRA also engaged in terrorism in the past.

But yes, most of the people who are monstrous enough to target civilians, are Muslims.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 09:34 am
@oralloy,
You're just spewing Uncle Sam's "pablum", Oralboy. Never ever do you provide any source because you can't. Sources material is voluminous describing the usa's myriad war crimes, acts of genocide, targeting of civilians, rapes, torture, illegal renditions, killing children, ... .
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usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 09:44 am
@oralloy,
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjojcrOHVsRL_3j-_PemAXPJFijQKKtJPsXod2noVoAlThdwdQ
These are muslims so are terrorists?
usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 09:58 am
@oralloy,
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSo8eehB6UYid9zKI85qm5JSLqqEAk6K9pPB4F1uV5mGXT3z5FQxw
He is muslim so he a terrorist?
usmankhalid665
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 10:19 am
@oralloy,
Oralloy have no evidence, he is not ready to accept the truth. He is throwing posts without any sense. Dear oralloy, you should just eat food and sleep, then eat and sleep. We don't need your biased and non sense posts. Bye bye
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 01:41 pm
@usmankhalid665,
usmankhalid665 wrote:
These are muslims so are terrorists?

No idea. I have graphics turned off.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 01:43 pm
@usmankhalid665,
usmankhalid665 wrote:
He is muslim so he a terrorist?

As above, no idea. Graphics turned off.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 01:44 pm
@usmankhalid665,
usmankhalid665 wrote:
he is not ready to accept the truth.

On the contrary, the truth and I get along quite well.


usmankhalid665 wrote:
your biased and non sense posts.

Your dislike of reality does not make my posts either biased or nonsensical.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 07:14 pm
@oralloy,
You are likely lying as you most often do. They are pictures of little children murdered by the Israeli government.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 07:26 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
You are likely lying as you most often do.

Says the clown who can't point to a single place where I am even wrong about anything.


JTT wrote:
They are pictures of little children murdered by the Israeli government.

Well, that is what they are pretending to be. Fabrication does not equal fact.

I turned graphics on for a moment to get a cool picture of Gaza bomb damage that just occurred a few minutes ago, and thought I'd swing by here for a look while I was at it.

So it was just the dead children gambit once again. Boring!
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jul, 2014 07:28 pm
@oralloy,
You're lying again, Oralboy, Uncle Sam's creamy white flowing down your chin.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 04:26 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Gaza (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) is occupied Palestinian territory under international law, determined by the vast majority of the world, as well as the highest court in the world, the UN’s International Court of Justice. Gaza cannot commit aggression against Israel, since Israel is in constant and continual commission of illegal aggression against Palestine by occupying it (illegally and sadistically blockading it and frequently committing terrorism against its civilians, including by targeting them with chemical weapons provided by US taxpayers – see “Rain of Fire” by Human Rights Watch). As documented by Amnesty Int’l, Human Rights Watch, and many others, Israel intentionally targets and murders civilians, including children, en masse.
Israel also kidnaps and tortures children, including by keeping them in outdoor cages, over night, in winter.
But, even ignoring international law and that Gaza is under illegal Israeli occupation, Gaza did not initiate this current round of violence; Israel did:
Western/US/Israeli propaganda says the violence started with the kidnapping and killing of three Israeli youths on June 12th. That is a lie:
On May 20th, the Israeli government murdered 2 unarmed Palestinian teens, one on video, and wounded a third.
The firing of pathetic scrap metal rockets from impoverished Gaza, which have killed no one, were in fact launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, killings, assassinations, and arrests of Palestinians, including children.
Since the year 2000, Israel has killed 1,500 Palestinian children, while Palestinians have killed 132 Israeli children. That means Israel has killed over 1,000% percent more Palestinian children than vice versa.
As documented by the Washington DC based non-Profit, The Jerusalem Fund, Israel breaks far more ceasefires than Palestine – this includes firing of the Palestinian scrap metal rockets.
For example, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights organizations reported that in Israel’s 2009 Gaza Massacre, Israel killed about 450 children, and it was Israel, they documented, that broke the ceasefire. (In that massacre, Israel killed overall from 1,400 to 7,000 Palestinians, almost all civilians, while 13 Israelis were killed, several from friendly fire.)
According to a landmark, comprehensive study of all of Israel’s wars, by Zeev Maoz, Professor of Political Science at the University of California, Davis, former head of the Graduate School of Government and Policy and of the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, and former academic director of the M.A. Program at the Israeli Defense Forces’ National Defense College:
“. most of the wars in which Israel was involved were the result of deliberate Israeli aggressive design . None of these wars – with the possible exception of the 1948 War of independence – was what Israel refers to as Milhemet Ein Berah (war of necessity). They were all wars of choice . ” – Defending the Holy Land, pg. 35, (bold added)
“I review a number of peace-related opportunities ranging from the Zionist-Hashemite collusion in 1947 through the collapse of the Oslo Process in 2000. In all those cases I find that Israeli decision makers – who had been willing to embark upon bold and daring military adventures – were extremely reluctant to make even the smallest concessions for peace . I also find in many cases Israel was engaged in systematic violations of agreements and tacit understandings between itself and its neighbors.” – Defending the Holy Land, pg. 40
Israel has violated more UN resolutions than any other country. That includes Iraq under Hussein.
Hamas is the government elected by Gaza in elections that Jimmy Carter (and many others) observed and said were completely fair and free. Israel constantly says Hamas uses human shields. But in Israel’s biggest massacre of Gaza, the one in 2009, all the human rights organizations, including Amnesty, HRW, and the jurist Richard Goldstone, found that Hamas DID NOT use human shields. On the contrary, Israel used human shields, which is a regular practice for Israel. Israel uses civilians as human shields.
Israel forced Palestinian civilians to dig and lay naked in trenches around Israeli tanks. See here at 6:45.
Goldstone Report:
XIV. THE USE OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS
“The Mission received allegations that in two areas in north Gaza Israeli troops used Palestinian men as human shields… The Mission found the foregoing witnesses to be credible and reliable. It has no reason to doubt the veracity of their accounts and found that the different stories serve to support the allegation that Palestinians were used as human shields.”
Noam Chomsky: “Hamas is regularly described as ‘Iranian-backed Hamas, which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.’ One will be hard put to find something like ‘democratically elected Hamas, which has long been calling for a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus’—blocked for over 30 years by the US and Israel. All true, but not a useful contribution to the Party Line, hence dispensable.”
In the history of all rocket and mortar fire into Israel, 26 people, total, have been killed. And remember, Palestine breaks ceasefires far less often than Israel, as documented above.
This number of 26 is in contrast to the minimum number of 1,400 people who were murdered by Israel in a single one of its terrorist atrocities, the 2009 Gaza Massacre.
Noting that in the current massacre, zero Israelis and over 100 Palestinians have thus far been killed, and noting that Gaza is a concentration camp – Israel allows no one to enter or leave – Dan Sanchez gives a perfect description of the disparity in arms between the US/Israeli war machine and Palestinian scrap metal projectiles: “They [the Gazans] are like fish in a barrel, being blasted by a shotgun from above. It’s like some of the fish in the barrel pathetically spitting water at the gunman, and [US media calls] that a “shooting battle.”
The rhetoric and tactics of Hamas and other groups resisting Israeli occupation and colonization can be brutal (though far less so than Israel). Propagandists try to attribute this to anti-Semitism, to distract from the fact that these groups are resisting having their country stolen and their people dispossessed and annihilated. Native American resistance to European colonizers was sometimes extremely brutal, as was their rhetoric, but everyone universally recognizes that this was not because of “anti-White-ism”, or “anti-European-ism”, but because they were having their land stolen and their people massacred, the same thing that Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
Palestinians have the right under international law to resist occupation, ethnic cleansing, colonization, aggression, and annexation. Miko Peled, son of an Israeli general, recently stated that if Israel doesn’t Like rockets, they should decolonize Palestine. Dr. Norman Finkelstein notes that “The Palestinians have the right to use arms to resist an occupation . However, the fact that morally and legally they have that right doesn’t mean that it’s the most prudent strategy. In my opinion, a national Palestinian leadership committed to mobilizing nonviolent resistance can defeat the Israeli occupation if those of us living abroad lend support to it.”
In 1948, the people who wanted to form a Jewish state carried out a massive terror and ethnic cleansing campaign against the occupants of Palestine, expelling about half of them (750,000) from their land and into concentrated areas (Gaza and West Bank). Israel has slowly continued colonizing even those areas, which were specifically reserved by the UN for Palestinians. Israel takes all the best land and resources, such as water. Here is a visualization of what has happened, and is currently happening with massive support from Obama:

READ ON AT THE FOLLOWING. LOTS OF EXCELLENT LINKS.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:08 pm
@JTT,

JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:54 pm
Presbyterian Divestment Works, Israel Stands Down, Palestine Goes Free
Published on July 9th, 2014
Written by: Derek M. Kwait


July 6, 2014: The recent decision of the Presbyterian Church (USA) to divest from three companies, Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola, it sees as playing an instrumental role in Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian Territories, has succeeded beyond the church’s wildest expectations, ending the occupation and bringing about peaceful co-existence between Israelis and Palestinians mere weeks after its passage.

Without investment from the Presbyterian Church (USA), the companies, Hewlett-Packard. Caterpillar, and Motorola, suffered a financial and public-relations blow from which they they will never recover. The weight of the millions of dollars lost from contracts with the Presbyterian Church (USA), besides the enormous political weight behind other protesting organizations like the ASA, caused these corporations to declare bankruptcy over the weekend and brought the Israeli government to its knees.

“The financial bankruptcy these companies declared last week was redundant—they had already declared moral bankruptcy the second they decided to sell their wares to the rogue Zionist regime, “ a church spokesperson said.

“It finished us,” Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said at a ceremony at the controversial separation wall dividing Jewish Israeli from Palestinian territory. “Finding new companies to do our bidding was not an option, as the superior quality of these companies’ products made them ideal for oppressing Palestinians. Other firms’ products simply aren’t well-made enough to oppress Palestinians in the way we feel they need to be oppressed, so it’s just not worth it anymore. Our jig is up. Israeli troops are vacating Palestine starting immediately. And we would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those pesky American Presbyterians and their friends at Jewish Voice for Peace,” he said, then took a sledgehammer to the wall in the first ceremonial step towards tearing it down.

“Thanks to the Presbyterian Church (USA), my people are now, at last, free,” a teary Mahmoud Abbas said upon being elected the State of Palestine’s first Prime Minister, adding that he looks forward to working with his “partners Hamas” to form a new unity government “for the good of our people.” To the surprise of many, he then announced his first official act would be converting to Presbyterianism. “Their strategy for helping my people find peace was better than mine, so it follows that their vision of God must be better than mine, too,” he said.

“Though we certainly never expected this, we welcome Mr. Abbas into our community with open arms. Never underestimate the power of prayer,” a PC(USA) spokesperson said.

The scene on the street in Israel and Palestine is no less surprising—Jews and Arabs everywhere are dropping their animosities and their guns to embrace one another. “Though I originally considered anything reeking of BDS anti-Semitic, the Presbyterian Church (USA)’s tough love has wakened me to the truth. Who cares if my ancestors might have lived here 2,000 years ago, I was born in New Jersey, while their families have lived on this land for generations. This is ridiculous,” Dina ben Gideon, a Jewish resident of Hebron, said, as she and her family packed their bags to move to what she now calls “the right side of the Green Line.” “To Palestinian people everywhere, I say, I’m sorry,” she added. Soon after she finished speaking, a mob of Palestinians surrounded her family and began dancing with them, a scene that has repeated itself throughout the West Bank as Jewish settlers vacate, clogging the roads, something experts predict will make commerce in the area difficult for the next several weeks as the exodus continues.

After the log jam clears, investment and building in the new state of Palestine is expected to boom. The government is still searching for suitable contractors.

“After the Presbyterian Church (USA) divested from HP, Caterpillar, and Motorola, we were very grateful, but we never could have imagined this result,” Mohammad al-Uzri, a Palestinian resident of Nablus said. “Overnight, everything changed. What I would have thought would take several generations, inter-faith education, and gradual shifts in culture on both sides to accomplish, has now been achieved in a weekend. Allah and Jewish Voice for Peace be praised!”


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http://newvoices.org/2014/07/09/divestsatire/
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:59 pm
@JTT,
More cut & pasta served up by JTT

JTT wrote:

Noam Chomsky: “Hamas is regularly described as ‘Iranian-backed Hamas, which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.’ One will be hard put to find something like ‘democratically elected Hamas, which has long been calling for a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus’—blocked for over 30 years by the US and Israel. All true, but not a useful contribution to the Party Line, hence dispensable.”


"Democratically elected Hamas"

In 2006 Hamas won a parliamentary majority.

Elections were scheduled for 2010, but cancelled.

Hamas withdrew from the 2012 elections, and refused to recognize their results.

Elections are scheduled for the end of this year. Want to bet they never take place or are immersed in claims and counter-claims of intimidation and corruption by both Fatah and Hamas?

Neither the corrupt regime in the West Bank nor the terrorist regime in Gaza bear any resemblence what-so-ever to democratic governments and yet Chomsky has the chutzpa to insist that Hamas be referred to by the term "the democratically elected Hamas." If President Obama refused to relinquish power at the end of his second term and "cancelled" (or as dictators like to call it "suspend") the 2016 presidential election, I suppose Chomsky would refer to Obama as the democratically elected Barack Obama. But of course that would depend on whether or not he supported Obama and wanted to use word-games to legitimize what would clearly be an illegitimate government.

If, as Chomsky suggests, Hamas has long been calling for a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus’ then why is the Palestinian Authority insisting that Hamas accept the two-state solution as a condition for reconciliation? Is Chomsky suggesting the Abbas and the PA are in league with Israel and the USA in maintaining the Party Line?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:09 pm
@JTT,
You do realize, don't you that this, your latest cut & pasta dish is satire, and mocks the movement to divest and boycott?

Also you left out some of the funnier bits:

Quote:
Church officials say the money will go towards further peacemaking enterprises throughout the world. “Don’t worry, good people of Kashmir, we’re coming for you next,” they said.

Reactions in the US Jewish community have been mixed. Zionist Organization of America President Morton Klein was quoted as saying, “I’m a horrible, horrible person,” before running off never to be seen nor heard from again.

“So it turns out divesting from Israel was a better strategy than diplomacy and advocating for the rights of both sides after all. Who knew?” J Street President Jeremy Ben-Ami said in a statement fraught with the signs of a man in the midst of an existential crisis.

“Though we didn’t feel comfortable saying it publicly, I can now say we really wanted to see one binational state, though we accept this compromise,” Jewish Voice for Peace director Rebecca Vilkomerson said. “Sometimes you can’t get everything you want.”

UPDATE: Shortly after the two Prime Ministers spoke, fifty rockets fired from Gaza into southern Israel.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:09 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You, a citizen of the terrorist nation USA, have a lot of gall talking about democracy.

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US plotted to overthrow Hamas after election victory
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Tuesday 4 March 2008 02.05 GMT

The Bush administration, caught out by the rise of Hamas, embarked on a secret project for the armed overthrow of the Islamist government in Gaza, it emerged yesterday.

Vanity Fair reports in its April edition that President George Bush and the secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, signed off on a plan for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to remove the Hamas authorities in Gaza. The plan called for Washington's allies in the region to funnel arms and salaries to Fatah fighters who would lead a rising against Hamas.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/04/usa.israelandthepalestinians
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:10 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You really are thick, Finn.
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