THE GREAT WAR--A CENTURY AGO . . .

@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I would appreciate it if people would stop talking to that jackass Romeo. You're just feeding a troll.

Plus the fact they inadvertently announce the fact that the idiot is actually posting on the thread, of which I was blissfully unaware, having said idiot on ignore.

If absolutely everyone hit the ignore button with him, he would soon slink off somewhere else.

Enjoying the sensible posts so far......AND learning quite a bit on the way.

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@edgarblythe,

edgar, I was at Gallipoli several years ago, and here's a picture of their cemetery where the ANZAC soldiers are interred. When I was in Sydney a couple of years later, they had some kind of military memorial service in downtown.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag215/Tak_Nomura/2011-09-23001_zps11dfdedf.jpg

I have more pictures, but I'll need to find them first.

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@cicerone imposter,

Mucho thanks

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@Lordyaswas,

You are such a coward, lordy. A miserable little coward.

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@cicerone imposter,

Some don't appreciate you sticking reality in here, CI, possibly even Set himself. He's seriously conflicted, having taken part in the massive series of war crimes against many of the people of SE Asia.

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Quote:

Lordywas said: have idiot Romeo on ignore.

Good, now I can tell people things about you behind your back.. Smile

"psst...psst...psst...psst..."

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Whisper-in-ear_zpsf0823e38.jpg~original

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@cicerone imposter,

I agree to cicerone imposter. Vietnam veterans also suffered psychological after effects and thousands of children were left orphans.

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@SteveJackson,

This is what really should be remembered about these horrid acts.

Quote:

Rape Was Rampant During the Vietnam War. Why Doesn't US History Remember This?
Thousands of books have been written about Vietnam with no mention of widespread sexual assault.
—Nick Turse on Tue. March 19, 2013 3:03 PM PDT

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/rape-wartime-vietnam

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Kill Anything that Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam’ By Nick Turse

http://m.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kill-anything-that-moves-the-real-american-war-in-vietnam-by-nick-turse/2013/01/25/f6f8db0c-5e95-11e2-90a0-73c8343c6d61_story.html

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@panzade,

panzade wrote:

WWI was inevitable according to author Robert K Massie in his thorough study of the build-up in naval strength by England and Germany.

His follow-up: Castles Of Steel outlines the Naval battles through 1918.

Excellent book.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Crap, Finn, the kind of crap that has allowed evil folks to sanitize these horrors into nice digestible bite size pieces.

Read Nick Turse's book for a few shots of reality.

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I've just begun reading Sleepwalkers by Christopher Clark. Already have learned quite a lot about the Serbs of which I was not previously aware. (Not that I would have professed to have been an expert on Serbian history before picking up this book).

Has anyone else read this one?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

No but I'm off to Amazon to order it...looks really choice.

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@SteveJackson,

SteveJackson wrote:

I agree to cicerone imposter. Vietnam veterans also suffered psychological after effects and thousands of children were left orphans.

Just to put things into context regarding the Great War, to illustrate how terrible it was.
A quote from a documentary I watched the other night made my ears prick up.

More British soldiers died on the first day of the Battle of the Somme than the total number of military deaths during the entire Vietnam war.
The word fodder springs to mind.

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@Lordyaswas,

Note: "Day" should read week in the above post. It is too early in the morning and a coffee is required.

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I wanted to second the recommendation of The Guns of August, for which she won the Pulitzer Prize. In addition, i recommend The Proud Tower by Tuchmann, which gives a highly readable and well thought-out narrative of the decades leading up to 1914.

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I have read an interesting and convincing argument that the Battle of the Somme was working, and that if Haig had been allowed to renew the offensive in the late winter of 1917, the Germans would have been near collapse on the western front. That author suggests that when Lloyd George conspired with Lord Northcliffe to bring about the downfall of Asquith, and George subsequent ordered Haig to cooperate in a futile French offensive, it prolonged the war.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Thanks for the recommendation.

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the BBC started a four year project chronicling the war

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/podcasts/artwork/266/ww1.jpg

BBC Radio brings you stories of the war that changed who we are, with documentaries exploring the causes, politics and impact of WW1 and its legacy. From BBC National, Local, Regional and World Service Radio.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/ww1

other podcasts about the war

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/podcasts/artwork/266/worldwar.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/worldwar

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/podcasts/artwork/266/r41913.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/r41913

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/podcasts/artwork/266/1914.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/1914

by following the links below the images you can listen to or download any of the shows

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The impact of this war on Europe was much greater than the effect it had on the United States and on Japan. In the preface to one edition of The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien says that of the men in his Oxford class in 1914, only he and four others survived the war. The death and destruction had just as profound effect on the French and the Germans.

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