Can you liberals defend this???????!!!!!!!!!!!

I am earnestly hoping that the Kerry campaign is stupid enough to label thier candidate a LIBERAL.
They are, of course, no so stupid as to do so since it has been repeatedly shown that the majority of the American voting public identify the word LIBERAL with superannuated hippies; deranged ex-professors who once belonged to the Communist Party; Jesse Jackson and Ted( the Chappaquiddick Kid) Kennedy.

Yes, I would really like to see the Kerry advisors label their man a "liberal"

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edgarblythe wrote:

I am a liberal. I take issue with the soldiers who are in Iraq. I believe that most of them believe in what they are doing or think they believe in what they are doing, and I do not wish any to come to harm. I wish even more they could see the light and desist what they are doing. Finn and Mysteryman are trying to drive a wedge between leftists and their military brethren. They pick the most extreme examples of what some are saying to fashion their mold and imply very strongly that all liberals fit this mold. Wrong. Just as not all conservatives are blood thirsty goons, so not all liberals harbor violent wishes for the military. Many liberals are in or have been in the military themselves. We fought and won WW II under liberals. Go on and push your cultural war, Finn, Mysteryman. Some of us see the ulterior in your motives.

Exposed by edgar. Curses!

Actually edgar, I specifically stated it was unfair to insinuate all liberals were of De Genova's ilk. Your assertion otherwise forces me to trot out yet another generalization about liberals: Their emotions override their ability to reason (or is their ability to read?)

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blatham wrote:

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liberals run from the label of liberal as if it were the Scarlet Letter.

Now, there's two things worth running lustily towards.

Typical of an immoral liberal libertine!

(Do I really need to add :wink: ?)

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Standard right wing rhetoric: liberals haven't the ability to reason. No matter what you said there, your words were crafted to goad mysteryman on in his mystery quest to nail all liberals to the wall for what a few have done.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Standard right wing rhetoric: liberals haven't the ability to reason. No matter what you said there, your words were crafted to goad mysteryman on in his mystery quest to nail all liberals to the wall for what a few have done.

edgar, the paranoia of your partisanship is showing.

Or perhaps you have pierced the flimsy veils of my right wing cover-up.

I confess, I have been sending mysteryman coded messages designed to trigger the subliminal conditioning he received in the military. His mission: Seek out and destroy Michael Moore's video camera!

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(Do I really need to add ?)

Well, it did stop the tears.

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I am so befuddled by your last few posts, Finn. Please quit dazzling me with your rhetoric. Oh, me. Like all liberals, my head gets all fuzzy inside when I try to think.

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edgarblythe wrote:

I am so befuddled by your last few posts, Finn. Please quit dazzling me with your rhetoric. Oh, me. Like all liberals, my head gets all fuzzy inside when I try to think.

One might argue that a liberal's head doesn't get fuzzy, it was born that way, but OK, I'll give you a chance to rest up and think of some new leftist slogans.

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Not much more to say. You guys want to stick it to us over this issue and it ain't playing.

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The leading Liberal in the United States is Ted Kennedy. He is also the person who, because of his political connections, got away with being charged with manslaughter after he allowed Mary Jo Kopechne to drown in Chappaquiddick Bay. He first showed the depravity of his character by cheating on a Spanish exam at Harvard which, of course, caused him to be unceremoniously bounced from the University. He followed up with years as an alcoholic and philanderer. Ted Kennedy, I am sure, proudly wears the mantle of the USA's leading liberal.

It is no wonder than politicians all over the USA run away from that label. Only a few people can afford to wear that designation. I would dearly love to see Senator Kerry take up that label. Indeed, the Almanac of American Politics- 2002 says:
"Kerry came to the Senate with a reputation as a strong liberal" but I am sure that Kerry knows that allowing the American voting public to perceive that he is a liberal would be the kiss of death at the polls.
It would seem that only a few, like some on this post, can bear the label of liberal without fear of rejection.

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What does this have to do with the topic? Confused

What next? Bill & Monica & Hilary & the cigar & the thong?

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No, it has to do with Finn's comment- "Liberals haven't the ability to reason".

Senator Kennedy is a leading example of confusion and murky reasoning. Since he is the leading liberal in the USA, he is an ideal example of Finn's statement.

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That's right - Run out of ideas and conjure Ted Kennedy a hundred years ago. That'll put us in our proper niche.

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Wow, I'm surprised this thread has gone so far. I would point out to everyone that this topic is really boring, again, but I doubt it would do any good.

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SCoates wrote:

Wow, I'm surprised this thread has gone so far. I would point out to everyone that this topic is really boring, again, but I doubt it would do any good.

Well, that little bon mot is sure to stir things up again.

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mporter wrote:

No, it has to do with Finn's comment- "Liberals haven't the ability to reason".

Senator Kennedy is a leading example of confusion and murky reasoning. Since he is the leading liberal in the USA, he is an ideal example of Finn's statement.

No, Finn did not state that "Liberals haven't the ability to reason." That was edgar's interpretation.

Having said this, Teddy is, indeed, a leading example of not only confusion and murky reasoning, but venality.

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Yeah, yeah, whatever ..

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edgarblythe wrote:

That's right - Run out of ideas and conjure Ted Kennedy a hundred years ago. That'll put us in our proper niche.

Ted's face bears the ravages of a hundred years or more, but his venality is not quite so dated.

Considering that, to this day, he is a leading light of what amounts to the Liberal Movement in this country, and a chief spokesman for the Democratic Party, surely his character is relevant. You're not suggesting that 30 year old misdeeds fade into oblivion over time are you?

In any discussion of Liberal in America, it would be difficult to avoid reference to the Kennedys as a clan and Teddy individually. Presumably there are those liberals who greatly admire Teddy. Would they be accused of a poverty of ideas if they invoked TK's name in a discussion of American Liberals?

At times I'm sympathetic to the argument that Clinton's impeachment was much ado about lying about sexual harrassment in the workplace, but I do have a hard time with the notion that we should just forget about the old fact that Teddy let a young woman drown because he was more concerned with his political career than her life.

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My apologizes, Finn. However, I have a suspicion that although your reasoning would not allow you to write such a conclusion since you know it would be open to attack, your instinct would not think it is far from the truth.

It is clear to me that liberals who, as a group favor freedom of action especially with respect to matters of personal belief or action are far removed from the epitiome of rationality- the ideal that one must act as if one's act were to become the law for mankind.

That is far removed from the liberal "freedom of action" which I have observed. I think a case can be made that conservatism is more closely allied to reason than liberalism which appears to have far more affective elements in it.

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msolga wrote:

Yeah, yeah, whatever ..

A powerful, and irrefutable argument. You are, indeed, a daunting opponent msolga.

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Can you liberals defend this???????!!!!!!!!!!!

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