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Is George Bush a fundamentalist christian?

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:10 am
I strongly suggest people interested in American fundamentalism go to the following:

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6242.htm
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:29 am
From the linked article:
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Between such times, I wait rather anxiously and strive for change, for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of personal liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization in America.


Isn't it odd that many Christians are also waiting anxiously and strive for change for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of person liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization because of the liberal agenda in America?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:35 am
Foxfyre wrote:
From the linked article:
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Between such times, I wait rather anxiously and strive for change, for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of personal liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization in America.


Isn't it odd that many Christians are also waiting anxiously and strive for change for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of person liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization because of the liberal agenda in America?


Oh foxfyre....I agreed with you until that "because of the liberal agenda in America" part.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:39 am
Very interesting article.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:57 am
Notice how the article, which is a severe indictment of the Christian right, was butchered, er, edited, by the poster to serve his own purposes?
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mporter
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 12:08 pm
archbishop reveals that he is not adept at discerning differences when he says that he notices that Bush's references to the Lord in his speeches show some evidence of his Christianity. Of course it does, he is a Christian and has publicly announced that fact. The thread, as archbishop may have forgotten is "Is George W. Bush a FUNDAMENTALIST Christian". There is a difference, you know. Thus far, no one has offered any evidence to show that George W. Bush is a FUNDAMENTALIST Christian.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:05 pm
cavfancier wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
From the linked article:
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Between such times, I wait rather anxiously and strive for change, for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of personal liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization in America.


Isn't it odd that many Christians are also waiting anxiously and strive for change for relief from what feels like an increased stifling of person liberty, beauty, art, and self-realization because of the liberal agenda in America?


Oh foxfyre....I agreed with you until that "because of the liberal agenda in America" part.


One really ought not to be disappointed with reflexivity. One ought to expect that the cute little rubber mallet will always produce that sudden kick outwards. It's just the way god made us.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:10 pm
I want one of those rubber mallets...always liked them. I also want one of those model skeletons they always had in science class. I would hang a sign around it's neck saying "Conservative" and then knock it with the mallet saying "Hello, anybody home?" Oh yeah, that would give me a chuckle.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:17 pm
Nah, cav, that wouldn't be all that funny.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:20 pm
blatham wrote:
Nah, cav, that wouldn't be all that funny.


Okay, true. Those mallets are dangerous, always causing a knee-jerk reaction.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:31 pm
They do.

Regarding those scientific skeletons...one afternoon at university I walked into my anthropology class and took a seat. A skeleton had recently been delivered and placed in that room. It had arrived covered in a clear thin cellophane bag tied at the top and dropped over the length of the skeleton. Another student entered the room, stopped and bellowed in feigned alarm, "My God! The dry cleaners have made a HORRIBLE MISTAKE!"
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:34 pm
Now that's funny. Did you ever see the movie 'Pin'?
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:52 pm
No, never heard of it.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 10:54 pm
It's Canadian, and rather creepy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095871/plotsummary
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mporter
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:05 pm
Of course, foxfyre is concerned about the liberal agenda in America. If the liberals have their way, the horrible events occuring in Canada may be replicated here.

In the April 19th issue of US News and World Report, John Leo reports of the Canadian repression of free speech led by the liberal contingent in that country. Bill C-250 is on the brinkof being passed. This Bill is referred to as the "Bible as HAte Literature Bill". Professor David Bernstein,in his new book, You can't say that, reports that "It apparently has become illegal in Canada to advocate traditional Christian opposition to homosexual sex'. Or traditional Jewish or Muslim opposition too.:

And some Canadian hypocrites think they have the moral authority to lecture us when it is apparent they come from a Nazi like country in which the state defines the expression of certain thoughts as "improper".
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:10 pm
Some creepy movies do originate from our lands, I admit it. It's terribly odd. The Film Board has been really successful in establishing and forwarding our animation artists, who have produced bloody amazing stuff (The Chair, for example). But the sort of narratives that our film-makers seem to commonly respond to can be high weird.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:16 pm
We have a law against hate literature, not free speech, mporter. We like to call it a democratic compromise, something I am certain you are unfamiliar with. It's okay, the FCC will most certainly be banning all free speech in America soon, and Christian content will echo over the entire country as there will be nothing else to listen to. As for what bill C-250 is 'reffered' to, I must remind you of an old Schoolhouse Rock song: "I'm just a bill..." As for the rest of your rhetoric, it doesn't really deserve a response. In case you missed it, Canada supporting gay marriage and passing laws against hate literature against it is called 'progressive', not 'Nazi'.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:18 pm
blatham wrote:
Some creepy movies do originate from our lands, I admit it. It's terribly odd. The Film Board has been really successful in establishing and forwarding our animation artists, who have produced bloody amazing stuff (The Chair, for example). But the sort of narratives that our film-makers seem to commonly respond to can be high weird.


Mrs. cav and I watched Pin and it really freaked us out, despite being clearly low-budget. Uh oh, I just realized I responded to mporter...bad cav.
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mporter
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:46 pm
Really , cavfancier?

Perhaps you can fill me in. John Leo says that Canada has no First Amendment as we do. You are aware of the first amendment, of course. It protects speech.You are aware that the First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law adridging the freedom of speech.

Since I am not omniscient concerning Canadian Law as Mr.Blatham is apparently omnescient concerning all things in the USA, and do not know about Canada's Free Speech Laws, perhaps you will be so good as to give me a quotation from Canadian law which is equivalent to our Free Speech amendment. You see, canfancier, John Leo, in the US News and World Report says that "Canada has no first amendment".

Surely, there are some laws that permit Canadians to speak freely?

Or is free speech restricted to pompous former elementary school teachers like Mr. Blatham who think they are still lecturing their eight year old charges when they instruct, in a most condescending fashion, the citizens of the USA concerning their lack of ability to rule themselves?

Does Canada have laws that provide for free speech???
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 11:51 pm
mporter wrote:
Really , cavfancier?

Perhaps you can fill me in. John Leo says that Canada has no First Amendment as we do. You are aware of the first amendment, of course. It protects speech.You are aware that the First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law adridging the freedom of speech.

Since I am not omniscient concerning Canadian Law as Mr.Blatham is apparently omnescient concerning all things in the USA, and do not know about Canada's Free Speech Laws, perhaps you will be so good as to give me a quotation from Canadian law which is equivalent to our Free Speech amendment. You see, canfancier, John Leo, in the US News and World Report says that "Canada has no first amendment".

Surely, there are some laws that permit Canadians to speak freely?

Or is free speech restricted to pompous former elementary school teachers like Mr. Blatham who think they are still lecturing their eight year old charges when they instruct, in a most condescending fashion, the citizens of the USA concerning their lack of ability to rule themselves?

Does Canada have laws that provide for free speech???


No, we don't, nothing like your treasured first amendment. However, I think the real problem is how YOUR first amendment rights are being eroded by the FCC and the Bush administration.
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