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The School of Belle Knox-Duke Porn Star

 
 
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 05:07 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

It's aggravating to argue with a scientific mind that won't hold up his political biases to scrutiny.

How about simply addressing what I asserted?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 05:09 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Brandon is attempting to suggest that Mr. Obama is responsible for the standard of living over the last six years, while ignoring that the junk bond and unsecured mortgage bond collapses as well as the bail-outs took place in 2007, when his hero, Baby Bush, was in office. No surprise there.

So, you are saying that it is incorrect to give some blame for worsening conditions to a president who has been in office for six years. He had no option at all to make things get better instead of worse? Everything bad that happens on his watch is someone else's fault?
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 06:29 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon the standard of living can't start improving until years after the Great Recession is over.
In that sense Obama has done well..but we won't see improvements for quite a while...you know, like there's a lag.

Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best President?

With the stock market hitting new highs, some people have already forgotten about the Great Recession.

Recall 2009. Things looked pretty bleak economically.

But the outlook has changed dramatically in just 4 years. And it has been a boon for investors, as even the safest indices have yielded a 250% return (>25% annualized compound return:)

Although we hear almost no one in the Obama administration taking credit for record index highs, they should. Because the President deserves attention for how well this economy has done during his leadership.

Today the Congressional Budget Office is reporting a $200B decrease in the deficit almost entirely due to increased revenue from a growing economy and higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans. The deficit is now only 4% of the GDP, down from over 10% at the end of Bush’s administration – and projections are for it to be only 2% by 2015 (before Obama leaves office.) America’s “debt problem” seems largely solved, and almost all due to growth rather than austerity.

We can largely thank a fairer tax code, improved regulation and consistent SEC enforcement. Also, major strides in health care reform – something no other President has accomplished – has given American’s more faith in their future, and an increased willingness to invest.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/05/16/economically-could-obama-be-americas-best-president/
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 06:35 pm
@Brandon9000,
Not at all. I am no great fan of Mr. Obama,but he has done well in a difficult sutuation, whether or your lust for a hostile polemic will allow you to see it.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 06:36 pm
@panzade,
Panzade, rising stock market prices are nice, but it doesn't undo the fact that the standard of living is going downhill. Things are worse and worse for the average person. What you're basically saying is that no president can influence an economy so that it doesn't suck within his two administrations, no matter what he does, and however much things go downhill, it isn't his fault. I wonder if you'll be so charitable when a Republican president presides over worsening national problems.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 06:40 pm
@Brandon9000,
which republicans are helping mr Obama raise the minimum wage?
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2014 06:51 pm
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
What you're basically saying is that no president can influence an economy so that it doesn't suck within his two administrations

Yes. Even though Obama has turned things around, the standard of living likely won't improve before Obama leaves office. That's how bad The Great Recession affected our economy.
Were you not around then?

As I've noted before.
My parent's fortune was nearly wiped out and my career in construction ended in 2008.
Our standard of living plummeted.
You don't remember?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:01 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

which republicans are helping mr Obama raise the minimum wage?

The standard of living has gotten worse in general during the long time he's been in office. You can't explain it all away. Democrats usually don't help Republican presidents either. It sounds like you guys are saying that if things go bad when a Republican is in power, it's his fault, and if things go bad when a Democrat is in power, it's the Republicans' fault. For God's sake, many Democrats tried to condemn Bush because he stayed at that school for seven minutes after the first plane hit the World Trade Center, yet a Democrat in the White House for six years is blame-free for a general decline in the standard of living?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:02 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

Quote:
What you're basically saying is that no president can influence an economy so that it doesn't suck within his two administrations

Yes. Even though Obama has turned things around, the standard of living likely won't improve before Obama leaves office. That's how bad The Great Recession affected our economy.
Were you not around then?

As I've noted before.
My parent's fortune was nearly wiped out and my career in construction ended in 2008.
Our standard of living plummeted.
You don't remember?

Conclusion: no matter what bad things happen while Obama is in power, none of it is his fault.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:06 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:

The standard of living has gotten worse in general during the long time he's been in office. You can't explain it all away.


are you serious?

have you forgotten 2007/2008/2009/2010?

those were painful years for the economies of many Western nations. The US nearly tanked completely in 2009.

The US was in a serious mess. People were walking away from houses. Truckers were burning their trucks and making insurance claims because they couldn't afford the payments. Other countries were stepping away from your economy. It was ugly.

Things have been improving for a couple of years but the impact of federal government policies of the early 2000's on your country were, simply put, brutal.

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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:21 pm
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
Conclusion: no matter what bad things happen while Obama is in power, none of it is his fault.

For Christ's sake Brandon, you're debating like a high school freshman.
Of course some things have not gone well for Obama, but he's certainly not responsible for the things that happened in 2000-2008....wait

...why don't YOU tell me what bad things he's responsible for.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:27 pm
I am shocked that a thread that starts about pussy ends up talking economics. what is this a bunch of pansies?
panzade
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 08:55 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
meh-one can only try
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 09:07 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
And if that wasn't your primary area of attention, Bear, no one would have ever noted everyone was off topic.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2014 09:09 pm
Raw capitalism at its best and this is NSFW for America's offices??!
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 07:47 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

And if that wasn't your primary area of attention, Bear, no one would have ever noted everyone was off topic.


Oh JTT, I'm not the only person here who can read for context. I believe you're mistaken. I don't make the news, I report it.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 04:39 pm
@panzade,
I think it's sad that this woman chose to degrade herself to make money. She 's free to do so but I really doubt that her "defiant" response is going to hold up for the rest of her life.

I don't know whether or not it is true, but I read that she didn't just engage in sex acts that most of us would consider normal, she played the role of debased sex slave.

In any case if she wasn't trying to hide her participation, she wouldn't have used a "stage name." I wonder what her parents think of how she financed her tuition? Chances are though that she is not the daughter of Ozzie & Harriet parents. What will she tell her daughter when the kid finds out?

I wouldn't expect her to take her life once her former profession was revealed and I can understand why a "defiant" feminist response was her only recourse, but there's something screwy with this kid.

The pornography industry, particularly where this women played, preys on women. There is nothing liberating about what she did.

I feel sorry for her, and I have less than charitable thoughts for those who choose to cast hard-core pornography as some expression of feminist liberation.

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 04:42 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Oh, and I guess she thinks her "performances" wouldn't be a threat to a matriarchal society. No mother would bat an eye over her naked daughter being gagged on film by some brutish lout
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 05:41 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
I think it's sad that this woman chose to degrade herself to make money.

That's a valid response
Quote:
but I read that she didn't just engage in sex acts that most of us would consider normal, she played the role of debased sex slave.

I didn't see that, though it could be true. She did complain about being matched up with the more "hideous" talent, as a newbie.
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In any case if she wasn't trying to hide her participation, she wouldn't have used a "stage name."

Apparently a majority of female porn stars hide their real name even if the parents look the other way.
Something about dodging serial "creeps"
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What will she tell her daughter when the kid finds out?

Good question

She's landed a TV gig so maybe she can enter mainstream TV.
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When Duke student Miriam Weeks was outed as porn star Belle Knox earlier this year, it led to hostility against the 18-year-old freshman on campus.

But that revelation has only led to positive things in the porn industry where she was been flooded with more work - including a new gig on a reality show.

Come May, Knox will host web-based reality show 'The Sex Factor', a competition for first-time porn stars playing off the hit talent show.
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 05:43 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Oh, and I guess she thinks her "performances" wouldn't be a threat to a matriarchal society.

Since we don't live in a matriarchal society I guess we'll never find out.
 

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