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A $1,000,000 for THIS?

 
 
chai2
 
Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 08:58 pm
I know this apartment has been featured in another thread in the past. Now this 420 sq ft space is selling for a million bucks?!

http://homes.yahoo.com/blogs/spaces/buy-the-world-s-most-famous-micro-apartment-for--1-million-205703421.html

That ridiculous.

Oh sure, you can make all kinds of combinations, beds and rooms appear and disappear, but come on.
You'd be spending a lot of your time moving walls and partitions arounds. Each time you move something comes the potential for breaking something. This place frankly doesn't look too sturdy to me....or at all comfortable.
Or, if you're like me, you'd say "damn, I'm too tired or lazy to move something. I'll just sit here and make due with how the room is currently configured.
I'd pull out the bed, and it would probably stay out for days, if not weeks. Oh yeah, and sure there won't be any clothes or dishes or stray items getting in the way.

This looks like some crap that convinces people is so livable, but when real life hits, it's a mess.

Oh, and of course there's the accompanying TED talk to tell us how wonderful it is.
 
roger
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 10:24 pm
@chai2,
Very perceptive comments after the article.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 05:15 am
@chai2,
please, Im busy selling chunks of the "True Cross" fo 50K each. Ive got enough lumber from that bad boy to earn me several tens of millions.

We have an RV that is about 370 ft ^2. Theres a rule that applies and it has never been shown to be false.
RULE OF RVS: Every RV shrinks by 2 feet of length for each month you and your partner are on the road with it. This effect continues until one of the partners slays the other.
I imagine that dwellers in these teeny apartments suffer from the RV Rule also.
I see a marked rise in knife murders and stranglings by people who live in em.
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:15 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Very perceptive comments after the article.


Yeah, I noticed roger. Written by real people, not ones that think it's cool to be able to say they live in a shoebox.

****, my bedroom is larger than that apartment, PLUS it's got a full size bath.
This guy is using a combination sink/toilet Mad . Bleech. Yeah, I want to use the equiv. of a airplane lavatory.

http://assets.dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/combined-sink-and-toilet-fixture.jpg



At 3:05 in the TED talk, he actually said he's Saving money because he bought a 420 ft space rather than 600, saving him $200K Rolling Eyes
Oh yeah, and there all that savings in utilities.

I hope he made enough giving these talks to pay for his place.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:17 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

This effect continues until one of the partners slays the other.



Laughing
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:21 am
@chai2,
It's not even the nicest microapartment I've seen online. It looks Ikea trashy/cheap.
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:25 am
@chai2,
Here are some of the comments I particularly appreciated.


All you idiots out there who'll do and pay anything to live in a so called trendy neighborhood just give these greedy developers incentive to throw everyone into a shoe box. Meanwhile they're laughing at you in their spacious digs probably while living on the same block.

This is like high fashion for young people that are chasing 'cool' stuff.
But for the rest of normal folks, we just lol at the silliness.


Another opportunity for some dbag hipster to spend on something useless. Like a thousand dollar scarf or a mini cooper.

Bring your own food, because I'm not cooking for 10 people on a hot plate and spending the next four hours doing the dishes in my tiny dishwasher.

How appealing. What an accomplishment and it sleeps four. I bet they could have a dog (a big dog) to make life perfect.

For 1M you can easily buy 1000sqf in New York City, (depending on the neighborhood, may be even more)
1M is ridiculous, There are apartments listed for 1.2M with Central Park views... This, meanwhile, is a box, no human being should be living in this tiny space for 1M!!!!!

What an investment, how can I buy it. Let's start a bidding war!

It's very nice, but I can't imagine having to move walls and furniture all day, all the time. After work, I just want to go home, relax and get some sleep. Having to shove walls and drag open partitions just so I can get to bed? Forget it.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:25 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

It's not even the nicest microapartment I've seen online. It looks Ikea trashy/cheap.


Totally Dude.
jespah
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:39 am
@chai2,
I just added a comment.
Quote:
Nobody's older. Nobody's got a kid. Nobody's disabled. What happens when that extra stuff we're supposed to be living without is a cane, or a stroller, or a wheelchair?
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 07:42 am
@chai2,
tsar, when a friend of mine lived in the city, I think his apt was 600 square feet, and through much less expensive methods he did just fine.

His bathroom was full size, and it was one of the things that made things bearable. It was a place to relax and bathe in a proper space.
As far as he was concerned, and I argree, the kitchen could have been half the size. He usually ordered in for dinner (he had an extensive collection of menus, all from excellent places), or ate on the way home from work, so only needed room for coffee/breakfast/small meals/snacks.

He's a neat freak, so the place always looked great. He bought a buck bed, slept in the upper part, removed the mattress from below, and fixed up the space as a cozy den/library/office.
He kept his clothes in these drawers near the entry that pulled out at an angle, allowing them to be really narrow. I don't know how to describe them. He uses them in his current home today, for other purposes.
Since the kitchen wasn't used for much, all that drawer/cabinet space held all sorts of stuff.
He lived there with 2 small/medium size dogs, but it never felt out of control.

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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 08:23 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

I just added a comment.
Quote:
Nobody's older. Nobody's got a kid. Nobody's disabled. What happens when that extra stuff we're supposed to be living without is a cane, or a stroller, or a wheelchair?



The same friend I mentioned?
He's now a realtor.

He says the trend (and I see it here) is for multi-story homes, rather than ranches. I know, a little off subject.
Yeah, that's great for 20, even 30 somethings, but there comes a time, even if you're in great shape, that stairs loose their charm.

Now I seem like an old fogey, but your heart and lungs can be in great shape for stairs (or maybe not), but you start to consider things like taking a tumble and breaking something, God forbid a hip.

I'd like to see housing developed where people can have their own separate living spaces, meaning small living room, bedroom, bath and washer dryer area, but sharing a kitchen. That way people have the security of having someone else nearby in case of an emergency, but you have privacy.

I was doing temp assignments for a whole working in model homes. There was this one design that intrigued me. It did have an upstairs, but that was the key.

Downstairs had the typical set up. There was a master bedroom/bath, and an office that could be a bedroom. Across from that was a separate dining room that could also be a bedroom, with a half bath that could have a shower added.

The great thing was that upstairs there was an open area way large enough to be a living room, and two bedroom and a full bath. You could easily set up the bedroom with the back to the bathroom (for plumbing) as a small kitchen/laundry room. You could downstair put in a privacy wall/screen so the upstairs person could come in and use the stairs without being seen by the occupant of the first floor, or put stairs on the outside of the house and add an entry door right up there.

That would make it perfect to rent out, or for adult children, or even a parent if they didn't mind the stairs.
jespah
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 08:32 am
@chai2,
I love the idea of a communal kitchen, say, a kind of pod arrangement where there are four living spaces and the center attachment is a kitchen/dining area. Four couples live each of these pods, they share the kitchen. They can socialize and eat together, or not, as people can eat in their own living spaces, either over a TV or computer or they can have their own dining area if they like.

A smaller space, smaller utilities, too, and someone is nearby, and no stairs.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 08:47 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

I love the idea of a communal kitchen, say, a kind of pod arrangement where there are four living spaces and the center attachment is a kitchen/dining area.

And they can also easily "borrow" other people's food where they promise to pay ya back (only after they've been caught red handed) and leave a mess in the kitchen. Communal kitchens can have their drawback. Still a lovely idea if the participants were reasonable and responsible adults.
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 08:53 am
@jespah,
When I was very very little we lived in just such a situation.

My grandmother (and for awhile grandfather) had her own sitting room and bedroom, which I would visit every day. My aunt, uncle and their sun had a similar set up, with 2 bedrooms. My parents and then 4 kids had their own area, with 3 bedrooms.

Downstairs was a really big kitchen, with long table and chairs for everyone.

I just have vague memories of actually living there, but they were comfortable memories. There was always someone there.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 09:03 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

jespah wrote:

I love the idea of a communal kitchen, say, a kind of pod arrangement where there are four living spaces and the center attachment is a kitchen/dining area.

And they can also easily "borrow" other people's food where they promise to pay ya back (only after they've been caught red handed) and leave a mess in the kitchen. Communal kitchens can have their drawback. Still a lovely idea if the participants were reasonable and responsible adults.


I would want this to be a situation where all the people there were owners, not renters, with a drawn up agreement for kitchen area.

Actually, that could be solved by having separate locked pantries for each person, and even if you wanted, 4 refridgerators.

With that many people living there, the kitchen would have to be large and utilitarian.
You could have one wall that had 4 refrirerators (I saw this done at a place I temped. They had a bank of at least 6 refrigerators, each with a name on it like "Pumpkin Pie" or "Rat on a Stick" so you knew where your food was.)

There could be 4 pantry areas along 2 other walls, meeting at the corner.

Above the counter area would be 3/4 microwaves, underneath the counter would be a bank of dishwashers. The counter itself would be work space.
On the 4th wall would be at least 2 stoves/ovens. Center of room would be table space and chairs.

It's not a roommate situation, it's your kitchen, your stuff. I don't think of it as so much a "communial kitchen" as one where you have your separate kitchen, just happens to be close/overlapping to someone elses kitchen.

Oh, and with that many people sharing accomodations, you could easily have someone come in once a twice a week to clean the kitchen and any other common areas.
jespah
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 10:01 am
@chai2,
This^

And I agree that it can get ugly if it's not managed well (and people who are in early stages of dementia might seem okay but their frustrations can make them fly off the handle at inappropriate times).

The main point I am making is that there have got to be a ton of decent alternatives to warehousing the aged, and keeping independence for as long as possible. This would also, generally, be a cheaper solution. It continues to be dismaying that there are so few choices on LI, where my folks are. It seems very all or nothing, so they are, legitimately, balking a bit at making a change.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 10:03 am
This kind of place is not well-thought-out. There's no room to turn around, but worse, if you fart, there's no escaping it.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 10:10 am
@Setanta,
So it's a woman's apartment then.

Women never ever fart.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 10:13 am
@Lordyaswas,
I believe it's also true that the wimmins don't poop, either.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 10:25 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

This kind of place is not well-thought-out. There's no room to turn around, but worse, if you fart, there's no escaping it.


I thought about this too.

God that place would stink.
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