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Benghazi, Putin. How's Obama doing?

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:50 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

I answered this before an of course got no response from the zombie (you Bob)that posted it. The Democrats had every chance to react. They did not.


What a big lie. The dems had no chance to act to save our diplomats. See http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:55 am
@Advocate,
Quote:
What a big lie. The dems had no chance to act to save our diplomats


I was talking about the attacks Bob posted in his daily defense of the liar in chief.. Pay attention.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 09:55 am
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In his words Lyons says that the attack on Benghazi was a bungled kidnapping attempt to be perpetrated upon Ambassador Stevens. This was to appear to be a hostage exchange for a terrorist prisoner who was to be released in trade for a supposedly captured US ambassador. The trade would have been for Omar Abdel Rahman an international prisoner, known as the Blind Sheikh.

This apparent abduction by terrorists of our ambassador and then negotiated trade for the Blind Sheikh would have been the “October Surprise” that would have elevated President Obama’s flagging popularity and boosted his approval ratings for a re-election. A dramatic prisoner exchange that saved our ambassador’s life However, something went horribly wrong. A cunning and illegal bit of treachery by the Obama White House turned into something entirely different. Obama’s October surprise turned into a carnage orchestrated by the White House itself as the President, Leon Panetta, and CIA Director, David Petraeus watched via a UAV real-time feed as a 7 hour attack on the Benghazi Embassy raged. Reportedly, stand down orders were given several times to different units within striking distance.

http://www.politisite.com/2013/01/17/retired-4-star-admiral-blows-whistle-on-benghazi-new-evidence/
If that can be proven, and this man is(was) a 4 star Admiral, Obama will be impeached. I'll be watching the network and Fox to see if this goes anywhere. And I will be writing my Congressman.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 10:19 am
@coldjoint,
Next you will be telling us that the Apollo moon landings were a hoax....
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 10:33 am
@hawkeye10,
You don't find it believable? Do you recall all the generals and high ranking military Obama has fired or retired?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 10:38 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

You don't find it believable? Do you recall all the generals and high ranking military Obama has fired or retired?
now you are on to something....Obama has a deeply horrible relationship with the officer corps.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 12:53 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Today NATO announced the ending of all relations with Russia due to Crimea. Tomorrow (figuratively) Roscosmos will announce the ending of all relations with NASA.

BYE BYE Space Station, what a waste of 100+ billion that was as almost no science was produced.


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Given Russia’s ongoing violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, NASA is suspending the majority of its ongoing engagements with the Russian Federation. NASA and Roscosmos will, however, continue to work together to maintain safe and continuous operation of the International Space Station. NASA is laser focused on a plan to return human spaceflight launches to American soil, and end our reliance on Russia to get into space. This has been a top priority of the Obama Administration’s for the past five years, and had our plan been fully funded, we would have returned American human spaceflight launches – and the jobs they support – back to the United States next year. With the reduced level of funding approved by Congress, we’re now looking at launching from U.S. soil in 2017. The choice here is between fully funding the plan to bring space launches back to America or continuing to send millions of dollars to the Russians. It’s that simple. The Obama Administration chooses to invest in America – and we are hopeful that Congress will do the same.


NASA

Ya, that is going to go over so well with the Russians. If I were Putin I would order the return to Earth in 10 days the Russian staff of ISS, as well as the Russian return craft. If the Americans and the Japanese dude dont want to die in space they best catch a ride.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 01:06 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
MOSCOW, March 31 (RIA Novosti) - A Russian unmanned Progress resupply spacecraft is readying for an April 9 launch from the Baikonur space center to deliver essential cargo to the International Space Station, the Russian space agency Roscosmos has said.
"The spaceship will carry more than 2.5 tons of diverse cargo, including fuel for the ISS, additional hardware, food, water and oxygen for the crew, as well as scientific equipment for conducting experiments," the agency said in a statement.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140331/188914284/Russian-Resupply-Vehicle-to-Blast-Off-for-Space-Station-Voyage.html

Ya, about that......prob not going to happen.

Putin must be saying "**** it", bring everyone home, blow up the ISS, and then going into partnership with the Chinese. Nasa is so 1960's anyways.
revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 06:51 am
Pentagon Says Benghazi Probes Cost Millions

Congress' multiple investigations of the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, have cost the Pentagon millions of dollars and thousands of hours of personnel time, according to the department.

In a March 11 letter, the Pentagon outlined its cooperation with six investigations of the Sept. 11 assault that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, and its response to repetitive requests for information from about 50 congressional hearings, briefings and interviews.

The letter was in response to a request by Rep. Adam Smith of Washington state, the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, who questioned the ongoing investigations in light of cuts to the military budget and reports, some written by Republicans, largely clearing the military of any wrongdoing.

"The total cost of compliance with Benghazi-related congressional requests sent to the department and other agencies is estimated to be in the millions of dollars," the Pentagon said.

For example, retired Gen. Carter Ham, the former commander of U.S. Africa Command, has briefed or testified before congressional panels five times over two years, and yet both the Armed Services Committee and House Oversight and Government Reform has asked Ham to submit to additional interviews.

Congressional Republicans have been relentless in investigating the attack, arguing that the Obama administration misled the American people about a terror attack during the heat of the presidential campaign. The GOP is determined to press ahead, especially since the assault on the mission occurred during Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

Clinton is a potential 2016 presidential candidate.

Smith subsequently wrote to Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., chairman of the committee, asking that the panel end its involvement with "this witch-hunt."

"More than any other committee in Congress, this committee should understand the financial strain on the department of defense, which is being made worse by these ongoing and ridiculous investigations," Smith wrote.

Claude Chafin, a spokesman for McKeon, said the chairman appreciated Smith's concerns, and added, "it is important that the committee see this oversight effort through to its conclusion."

An independent review in the aftermath of the attack faulted the State Department and security at the compound. A Senate Intelligence Committee report in January said the attack could have been prevented, blaming the State Department, the military and U.S. intelligence.

That report also pointed at Stevens, saying the State Department ended a deal with the military to have a special operations team provide extra security in Libya, and that Stevens twice refused an offer to reinstate the team in the weeks before the attack.

The military also is criticized in the report for failing to respond more quickly on the night of the assault.

But that report as well as a February 2014 report by the Republicans on Armed Services said there was no order to military personnel not to aid those in Benghazi as some Republicans have suggested.

"There was no 'stand down' order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi," said the GOP majority on House Armed Services. "However, because official reviews after the attack were not sufficiently comprehensive, there was confusion about the roles and responsibilities of these individuals."

The bipartisan Senate Intelligence report said it had "reviewed the allegations that U.S. personnel, including in the intelligence community or Defense Department, prevented the mounting of any military relief effort during the attacks, but the committee has not found any of these allegations to be substantiated."

Separately, four House Republicans wrote to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson seeking answers on a draft regulation to lift a longstanding prohibition on Libyans attending flight schools in the United States.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 08:02 am
@hawkeye10,
Is Russia really going to stop accepting US payments? Russia relies heavily on foreign payments for it's space program.

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Blaming budget cuts, the US space agency NASA signed a $424 million contract with Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, to ferry six American, European, Japanese or Canadian astronauts to the International Space Station through 2016.



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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 08:24 am
@revelette2,
And it's all so simple, Rev. Had the USA not been engaging in terrorist activities it never would have happened.

Americans, always whining about how their terrorist actions ultimately come back on them.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 09:44 pm
Quote:
Sharyl Attkisson: Morell's 'Bizarre' Benghazi Testimony Contradicts Past Claims About Attack


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2014/04/03/sharyl-attkisson-morells-bizarre-benghazi-testimony-contradicts-past-#ixzz2xsxnCGyH

Looks like Obama hacked the wrong reporters computer. Maybe she will be talked about like Fox keeping this scandal alive.

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SHARYL ATTKISSON: ...[T]he people defending the administration on the Benghazi talking points...led by Morell, are working so hard to try to dispel any idea that there was political motivation to leaving out the notion of terrorism, that they're all wrapped up in defending, what they admit, is bad intelligence decisions. In other words, he spent yesterday defending why they went with the faulty intelligence that advanced...the bad narrative that was untrue – and...without anybody pointing out he was doing this, [he] just kept saying why that was the right decision – even though it resulted in the wrong intelligence. It was a little bit bizarre.

JTT
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 09:48 pm
@coldjoint,
And it's all so simple, Cj. Had the USA not been engaging in terrorist activities it never would have happened.

Has anyone ever told you that you have the attention span of a gnat? You are perfect for the liars that make up the vast majority of USA media. You're a dream come true for Faux news.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 09:59 pm
@JTT,
What are you trying to accomplish by constantly repeating yourself? Put Zinn on and let me talk to him.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 11:33 pm
@coldjoint,
Your brain has been so muddled by repetition that repetition is all you can understand. You long ago lost the ability to think.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 11:37 pm
@JTT,
Zinn?http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/batboy.jpg
roger
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 11:43 pm
@panzade,
Me too, but that's faint praise.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2014 11:50 pm
@coldjoint,
As I mentioned, you long ago lost the ability to think. You're a meme generator, cj. As soon as you get outside your comfort zone, ie. you are required to think, out comes the emoticons.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2014 10:40 am
@JTT,
you are required to think, out comes the ZINNS
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2014 10:51 am
@coldjoint,
Zinn, Chomsky, the USA senate, it doesn't matter who puts the facts in front of you, you lack the ability to think. You are exactly like that brain dead sarah palin.

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CIA lied to justify torture programme', US Senate report to claim

US Senate committee will vote on Thursday to declassify 400-page summary of damning review exposing failings and exaggerations in the CIA's post-September 11 torture and rendition programme

The CIA lied and exaggerated about its secret kidnap and interrogation programme in the years after September 11, misleading the public and the government about the effectiveness of torture, a comprehensive new report by the US Senate is expected to claim.

The 6,300-page report is likely to shatter claims by George W. Bush administration officials, including the former US vice-president Dick Cheney, that so-called “enhanced interrogation” was an essential tool in the war on terror and the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

The report by the US Senate intelligence committee is based on a close reading of more than six million classified documents and includes case studies on virtually every single prisoner held in CIA “black sites” since 2001.

Its damning conclusions were approved by the 15-member committee in December 2012 but have since been bitterly contested by the CIA. However a vote is now expected on Thursday to declassify a 400-page executive summary that could be published as early as this summer.

Officials with first-hand knowledge of the report said that creating detailed chronologies of individual cases had revealed the extent to which the CIA had exaggerated both the value of information allegedly extracted by torture, and the importance of detainees themselves.

Among key examples was that of Abu Zubaydah, a Saudi-born Palestinian who was arrested in Pakistan in 2002 and water-boarded 83 times by the CIA after disappearing into black jails, before re-emerging at Guantanamo Bay in 2006.

An official who has reviewed the report told The Washington Post that the CIA had wrongly claimed that information obtained from Zubaydah during a regular FBI interrogation in a Pakistani hospital had been obtained as a result of “enhanced interrogation”.

“The CIA conflated what was gotten when, which led them to misrepresent the effectiveness of the programme,” the official said, adding that the committee had uncovered persistent mis-statements of this kind by senior CIA officials.

The value of CIA detainees was also exaggerated, the officials added, citing Zubaydah as an example of a detainee initially described as a top Al Qa’eda operative but later admitted to be a low-level facilitator.

The CIA is also accused of over-selling the role of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, another so-called “high-value” detainee who is accused in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen and is currently being tried at a military crimes tribunal trial at Guantanamo Bay.

The report is also expected to provide graphic detail of CIA interrogations to support the committee’s broad conclusion that Bush administration’s use of torture after September 11 2001 was a disastrous misjudgment.

“The creation of long-term, clandestine 'black sites’ and the use of so-called 'enhanced-interrogation techniques’ were terrible mistakes,” Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s Democrat chair, said in a December 2012 statement announcing the approval of the still-secret report.

The publication has been long-awaited by civil rights groups, lawyers and experts who contend that the US public has never been fully acquainted with the facts of CIA torture. A December 2012 YouGov survey found that 47 per cent of Americans still believed torture was “always or sometimes justified”.

“This Senate report is incredibly important. It is the first authoritative, factual account of what really happened,” Alberto Mora, the former top lawyer for the US Navy who argued against the Bush administration’s legal re-definition of torture, said in an interview with The Telegraph.

“It will put an end to the abominable euphemism 'enhanced interrogations’ and it will help to end the myth which has been absorbed by the American public and propagated by Dick Cheney and others that torture was legal, effective and necessary. It wasn’t.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10738159/CIA-lied-to-justify-torture-programme-US-Senate-report-to-claim.html


 

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