@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Quote:That has to be one of the stupidest statements I have ever seen you make,
And you just made another one. Lerner gave up her right to plead the Fifth or her right not to answer questions on what she claimed.
No, she didn't The USSC has said as much in rulings. History has proven it true.
This is a transcript from testimony to Congress in 1956. Note the use of the fifth amendment in amongst statements and answers to other questions.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6440
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And you are right laws are not the Constitution, but are Constitution approved. Again you are defending an obvious boneheaded mistake.
If laws are "Constitution approved" then that would mean the ACA, what you call Obamacare, is an approved law and your opposition to it is opposition to the Constitution and what it approves. It seems to be you making boneheaded mistakes.
Laws are assumed to be constitutional but the Constitution doesn't approve or disapprove of them. Your condemnation of Lerner for pleading the fifth is another boneheaded mistake. This is from the USSC ruling in Slochower v. Board of Education.
Quote:At the outset, we must condemn the practice of imputing a sinister meaning to the exercise of a person's constitutional right under the Fifth Amendment. The right of an accused person to refuse to testify, which had been in England merely a rule of evidence, was so important to our forefathers that they raised it to the dignity of a constitutional enactment, and it has been recognized as "one of the most valuable prerogatives of the citizen." Brown v. Walker, 161 U.S. 591, 610. We have reaffirmed our faith in this principle recently in Quinn v. United States, 349 U.S. 155. In Ullmann v. United States, 350 U.S. 422, decided last month, we scored the assumption that those who claim this privilege are either criminals or perjurers. The privilege against self-incrimination would be reduced to a hollow mockery if its exercise could be taken as equivalent either to a confession of guilt or a conclusive presumption of perjury.
It seems you are reducing the Constitution to a hollow mockery by any claims about Lerner and her pleading the fifth imply guilt.