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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 11:08 am
@parados,
ice brain doesn't know the meaning of words or sentences. His reality is unique; it's based on total ignorance.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 09:03 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Saudi Arabia has about 1.6% of the world's muslims. But don't let that stop you from claiming that a small percentage of a small percentage is equal to the whole.


I never said it was all Muslims, you keep saying that. What I have said there is a very, very sizable number. And that terrorists tend to be educated and wealthy. That you dismiss the problem is ludicrous and proves you do not consider countless examples of the hate Islam can and does inspire.

bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 09:25 pm
Because you are a signifying chicken hawk you have no clue regarding the sexual assault problem in the US armed services.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 09:28 pm
@coldjoint,
You're an idiot. You've painted "all Moslem ...." slanders any number of times.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 09:30 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
You're an idiot. You've painted "all Moslem .


Show me. I make it a point to blame Islam. The Muslim is just another victim of Islam.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 06:47 am
What carpfart needs to know about Benghazi

http://www.afsa.org/afsa_memorial_plaque_list.aspx

William Palfrey
Lost at Sea — 1780
Joel Barlow
Exposure — Zarnowice 1812
Richard C. Anderson
Yellow Fever — Cartagena, Colombia 1823
Nathaniel G. Ingraham, Jr.
Fever — Tampico, Mexico 1824
Harris E. Fudger
Murdered — Bogota, Colombia 1825
James A. Holden
Lost at Sea — 1827
John S. Meircken
Lost at Sea — 1832
William Shaler
Cholera — Havana, Cuba 1833
William S. Sparks
Cholera — Venice, Italy 1849
Thomas T. Turner
Epidemic — Bahia 1849
Thomas I. Morgan
Yellow Fever — Rio De Janeiro 1850
Hardy M. Burton
Yellow Fever — St . Thomas 1852
George R. Dwyer
Coast Fever — Mozambique 1854
Beverly L. Clarke
Tropical Fever — Guatemala 1860
Isaac S. McMicken
Yellow Fever — Acapulco, Mexico 1860
George True
Smallpox — Funchal 1862
Edward W. Gardner
Lost at Sea — 1863
Charles G. Hannah
Yellow Fever — Demerara 1864
Abraham Hanson
African Fever — Monrovia, Liberia 1866
Hiram R. Hawkins
Epidemic — Tumbez, Peru 1866
Allen A. Hall
Epidemic — La Paz, Bolivia 1867
H. E. Peck
Yellow Fever — Haiti 1867
James Wilson
Yellow Fever — Venezuela 1867
James H. McColley
Yellow Fever — Callao 1869
William Stedman
Yellow Fever — Santiago, Cuba 1869
Charles E. Perry
Epidemic — Aspinwall, Colombia 1872
Thomas Biddle
Epidemic — Guayaquil 1875
John F. Flint
Drowned Saving Life — La Union, El Salvador 1875
Philip Clayton
Yellow Fever — Callao 1877
Henry H. Garnet
African Fever — Monrovia 1882
Jesse H. Moore
Yellow Fever — Callao 1883
David T. Bunker
Yellow Fever — Demerara 1888
Victor F. W. Stanwood
Murdered — Madagascar 1888
William D. McCoy
Fever — Monrovia, Liberia 1893
John R. Meade
Yellow Fever — Santo Domingo 1894
Alexander L. Pollock
Yellow Fever — San Salvador 1894
Frederick Munchmeyer
Yellow Fever — San Salvador 1895
John B. Gorman
Malignant Malaria — Matamoros, Mexico 1896
Albert S. Willis
Malaria — Honolulu, Hawaii 1897
Rounsevelle Wildman
Lost at Sea — 1901
Thomas T. Prentis
Volcanic Eruption — Martinique 1902
Amedee Testart
Volcanic Eruption — Martinique 1902
Thomas Nast
Yellow Fever — Guayaquil 1902
William F. Havemeyer
Cholera — Bassorah, Turkey 1904
Philip Carroll
Fever — Manzanillo, Mexico 1906
Benjamin H. Ridgely
Exhaustion — Mexico City 1908
Arthur A. Cheney
Earthquake — Messina 1908
John W. Gourley
Smallpox — Ciudad Juarez, Mexico 1910
Theodore C. Hamm
Smallpox — Durango, Mexico 1914
Robert N. McNeely
Lost at Sea — 1915
Charles P. McKiernan
Smallpox — Chungkiang, China 1916
Charles F. Brissel
Cholera — Baghdad, 1916
Alfred L. M. Gottschalk
Lost at sea — 1918
Maddin Summers
Exhaustion — Moscow 1918
John D. O'Rear
Smallpox — La Paz, Bolivia 1918
Luther K. Zabriskie
Smallpox — Aguas Calientes, Mexico 1921
Carl R. Loop
Saving Life — Catania 1923
Max D. Kirjassof
Earthquake — Yokohama, Japan 1923
Paul E. Jenks
Earthquake — Yokohama, Japan 1923
Clarence C. Woolard
Epidemic — Cape Haitien, Haiti 1923
Robert W. Imbrie
Murdered — Teheran, Persia 1924
William T. Francis
Yellow Fever — Liberia 1929
William I. Jackson
Drowned Attempting to Save Life — Matanzas, Cuba 1930
John T. Wainwright
Drowned Attempting to Save Life — Matanzas, Cuba 1930
G. Russell Taggart
Hurricane — Belize, British Honduras 1931
J. Theodore Marriner
Murdered — Beirut, Syria 1937
John M. Slaughter
Earthquake — Guayaquil 1942
Thomas C. Wasson
Shot by Sniper — Jerusalem 1948
Douglas S. Mackiernan
Killed by Gunfire — Tibet 1950
Robert Lee Mikels
Burned Attempting to Save Life — Pusan, Korea 1951
David LeBreton, Jr.
Drowned Saving Lives — Tunis 1953
William P. Boteler
Killed By Grenade — Nicosia, Cyprus 1956
Robert A. McKinnon
Tropical Disease — Ouagadougou 1961
Barbara A. Robbins
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Saigon, Vietnam 1965
Joseph W. Grainger
Murdered — Vietnam 1965
Joseph R. Rupley
Killed by Gunfire — Caracas, Venezuela 1965
Dolph B. Owens
Vietnam 1960
Jack J. Wells
Plane Crash — Vietnam 1965
Norman L. Clowers
Viet Cong Ambush — Vietnam 1966
William D. Smith III
Vietnam 1966
Don M. Sjostrom
Laos 1967
John R. McLean
Laos 1967
Robert K. Franzblau
Shot While Evacuating Refugees — Vietnam 1967
Dwight Hall Owen, Jr.
Killed by Communist Forces — Vietnam 1967
Carroll H. Pender
Landmine Explosion — Vietnam 1967
Frederick J. Abramson
Shot During Viet Cong Ambush — Vietnam 1968
Thomas M. Gompertz
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
John T. McCarthy
Died from gunshot wound — Vietnam 1968
Kermit J. Krause
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
Jeffrey S. Lundstedt
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
Robert R. Little
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
Stephen H. Miller
Vietnam 1968
Hugh C. Lobit
Shot by Sniper — Vietnam 1968
Richard A. Schenk
Landmine Explosion — Vietnam 1968
Michael Murphy
Viet Cong Ambush — Vietnam 1968
John Gordon Mein
Shot by Guatemalen rebels — Guatemala 1968
George B. Gaines
Died from gunshot wounds — Vietnam 1969
Robert P. Perry
Murdered by Palestinian terrorists — Jordan 1970
Dan A. Mitrione
Assassinated by Uruguayan rebels — Uruguay 1970
Cleo Allen Noel, Jr.
Assassinated by Palestinian terrorists — Sudan 1973
George Curtis Moore
Assassinated by Palestinian terrorists — Sudan 1973
Everett D. Reese
Killed in action — Vietnam 1955
Thomas W. Ragsdale
Died while a prisoner of war — Vietnam 1967
Donald V. Freeman
Shot during hostile fire — Vietnam 1967
Albert A. Farkas
Pulmonary Embolism following sniper wound — Vietnam 1968
Robert W. Brown, Jr.
Shot during hostile fire — Vietnam 1968
Robert W. Hubbard
Killed while trying to escape Viet Cong — Vietnam 1968
Joseph B. Smith
Landmine Explosion — Vietnam 1970
Rudolph Kaiser
Viet Cong Ambush — Vietnam 1972
John Paul Vann
Helicopter Crash — Vietnam 1972
John S. Patterson
Kidnapped and murdered — Mexico 1974
Rodger P. Davies
Shot by sniper — Cyprus 1974
James C. Marshall
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
Steven A. Haukness
Killed in Tet Offensive — Vietnam 1968
Charles W. Turberville
Killed in Bomb Blast — Cambodia 1971
John Patrick Egan
Kidnapped and Killed by insurgents — Argentina 1975
Charles McMahon
Rocket Attack — Vietnam 1975
Darwin L. Judge
Rocket Attack — Vietnam 1975
Thomas Olmstead
Pancreatitis — Cambodia 1975
Francis E. Meloy, Jr.
Assassinated by terrorists — Beirut 1976
Robert O. Waring
Assassinated by terrorists — Beirut 1976
Adolph Dubs
Kidnapped and killed by terrorists — Kabul 1979
Steven J. Crowley
Shot by mob — Islamabad 1979
Bryan L. Ellis
Burned Attempting to Save Life — Islamabad 1979
Charles Robert Ray
Assassinated by terrorists — Paris 1982
Robert C. Ames
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Thomas R. Blacka
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Phyliss N. Faraci
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Terry L. Gilden
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Kenneth E. Haas
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Deborah M. Hixon
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Frank J. Johnston
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
James F. Lewis
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Monique Lewis
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
William R. McIntyre
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Robert V. McMaugh
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
William R. Sheil
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
Albert N. Votaw
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1983
George Tsantes
Killed by Gunshot — Athens 1983
Leamon R. Hunt
Murdered by Guerillas — Rome 1984
Kenneth G. Crabtree
Killed in Bombing — Namibia 1984
Dennis Whyte Keogh
Killed in Bombing — Namibia 1984
A. A. Schaufelberger III
Shot by insurgents — San Salvador 1983
Charles F. Soper
New Delhi 1983
Michael Ray Wagner
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1984
Kenneth V. Welch
Killed in Bombing of Embassy — Beirut 1984
Charles F. Hegna
Killed by Gunmen on Plane — Tehran 1984
William L. Stanford
Killed by Gunmen on Plane — Tehran 1984
Enrique Camarena
Killed by Drug Traffickers — Guadalajara 1985
Virginia Warfield
Automobile Accident — New Delhi 1983
Bobby Joe Dickson
Shot by Gunmen — San Salvador 1985
Thomas T. Handwork
Shot by Gunmen — San Salvador 1985
Patrick R. Kwiatkowski
Shot by Gunmen — San Salvador 1985
Gregory H. Weber
Shot by Gunmen — San Salvador 1985
Laurence A. Steinhardt
Plane Crash — Ottawa 1950
William F. Buckley
Kidnapped and killed by terrorists — Beirut 1985
William E. Nordeen
Car Bombing — Athens 1988
Arnold L. Raphel
Airplane Explosion — Pakistan 1988
Herbert M. Wassom
Airplane Explosion — Pakistan 1988
Matthew K. Gannon
Airplane Bombing — Scotland 1988
Ronald A. Lariviere
Airplane Bombing — Scotland 1988
Daniel E. O'Conner
Airplane Bombing — Scotland 1988
James N. Rowe
Shot by Communists — Philippines 1989
John A. Butler
Shot in Crossfire — Grenada 1989
Gladys D. Gilbert
Plane Crash — Ethiopia 1989
Robert W. Woods
Plane Crash — Ethiopia 1989
Thomas J. Worrick
Plane Crash — Ethiopia 1989
Freddie R. Woodruff
Drive-by Shooting — Georgia 1993
Barbara L. Schell
Helicopter Crash — Iraq 1994
Barry S. Castiglione
Died in Ocean Rescue — El Salvador 1992
Gary C. Durell
Ambushed by terrorists — Pakistan 1995
Jacqueline K. Van Landingham
Ambushed by terrorists — Pakistan 1995
Samuel Nelson Drew
Automobile Accident — Bosnia 1995
Robert C. Frasure
Automobile Accident — Bosnia 1995
Joseph J. Kruzel
Automobile Accident — Bosnia 1995
Ronald H. Brown
Plane Crash — Croatia 1996
Lee F. Jackson
Plane Crash — Croatia 1996
Stephen C. Kaminski
Plane Crash — Croatia 1996
Leslianne Shedd
Plane Crash — Comoros 1996
Nathan Aliganga
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Julian Leotis Bartley, Sr
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Molly Huckaby Hardy
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Kenneth R. Hobson II
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Prabhi G. Kavaler
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Michelle O’Connor
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Sherry Lynn Olds
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Uttamlal Tom Shah
Nairobi Embassy Bombing — Kenya 1998
Seth John Foti
Plane Crash — Bahrain 2000
Philip Thomas Lincoln, Jr.
Automobile Accident — China 1996
J. Kirby Simon
Carbon Monoxide Poisoning — Taiwan 1995
Nancy Ferebee Lewis
Pesticide Poisoning — Egypt 1993
Pasqual Martinez
Hotel Fire — Russia 1991
Robert B. Hebb
Plane Crash — Honduras 1989
Edward R. Cheney
Plane Crash — Philippines 1976
Garnett A. Zimmerly
Plane Crash — Philippines 1976
Bruce O. Bailey
Plane Crash — Vietnam 1972
Luther A. McLendon, Jr.
Plane Crash — Vietnam 1972
Livingston Lord Satterthwaite
Helicopter Crash — Greenland 1959
William Dale Fisher
Plane Crash — Ethiopia 1961
Gustav Crane Hertz
Died of Malaria while held captive — Vietnam 1967
Rose Marie Orlich
Killed in an Earthquake — Nicaragua 1972
Richard Aitken
Automobile Accident — Sudan 1981
Philip Robert Hanson
Plane Crash — Togo 1981
James David Marill
Automobile Accident — Cameroon 1986
Rebecca Roberts
Carbon Monoxide Poisoning — Israel 1987
Marie D. Burke
Murdered in home — United Kingdom 1989
Thomas P. Doubleday, Jr.
Malaria — Liberia 1993
James T. Lederman
Automobile Accident — Egypt 1994
Barbara J. Green
Terrorist Attack — Pakistan 2002
Laurence M. Foley
Terrorist Attack — Jordan 2002

Jerry V. Cook
Automobile Accident — Madagascar 1978
Richard A. Coulter
Automobile Accident — Iran 1975
Howard V. Funk, Jr.
Automobile Accident — Kenya 1972
Oscar C. Holder
Plane Crash — Nepal 1962
Sidney B. Jacques
Plane Crash — Nepal 1962
James Mollen
Terrorist Attack — Iraq 2004
Edward J. Seitz
Rocket Attack — Iraq 2004

John Francis O'Grady
Plane Crash — Australia 1960
Barbara C. Heald
Rocket Attack on U.S. Embassy — Iraq 2005
Keith E. Taylor
Rocket Attack on U.S. Embassy — Iraq 2005
Stephen E. Sullivan
Terrorist Attack — Iraq 2005
David E. Foy
Terrorist Attack — Pakistan 2006
Margaret Alexander
Helicopter Crash — Nepal 2006

Doris Knittle
Murdered by Servant — Afghanistan 1970
Henry W. Antheil, Jr.
Plane Exploded in Mid-Air — Estonia 1940
Steven Thomas Stefani, IV
Killed by Bomb — Afghanistan 2007
John Michael Granville
Vehicle Ambush — Sudan 2008

Brian Daniel Adkins
Murdered in Home — Ethiopia 2009

Felix Russell Engdahl
Accidental Fall in POW Camp — Hong Kong 1942
Thomas W. Waldron
Died of Cholera — Macau 1844
Edmund Roberts
Died of Dysentery — Macau 1844
Victoria J. DeLong
Earthquake — Haiti 2010
Dale J. Gredler
Heart Attack/Lack of Medical Facilities — Indonesia 2010
Terrence L. Barnich
Roadside Bomb — Iraq 2009

Francis J. Savage
Viet Cong Terrorist Bombing — Vietnam 1967
Joseph Gregory Fandino
Died in the Line of Duty — Vietnam 1972
Ragaei Said Abdelfattah
Killed in Afghanistan — Afghanistan 2012
Glen A. Doherty
Terrorist Attack — Libya 2012
Ty Woods
Terrorist Attack — Libya 2012
Sean Patrick Smith
Terrorist Attack — Libya 2012
J. Christopher Stevens
Terrorist Attack — Libya 2012
Anne T. Smedinghoff
Terrorist Attack — Afghanistan 2013
Antoinette Beaumont Tomasek
Car Accident — Haiti 2013


There actually is no Foreign Service Officers' Memorial, anywhere, which may surprise people. Not at Foggy Bottom in DC, or at FSI in Arlington, or on the Mall. There's a set of plaques that are kept updated as FSOs are killed in the line of duty. The plaques are displayed at State in DC, at I think every Embassy, and in a few Consulates General (we have a partial plaque here in Mumbai). (Also, I still don't quite grasp the distinction between a Consulate and a Consulate General; nobody I can ask seems to either.)

This will surprise nobody, but being an FSO isn't the safest job in the world. 245 have been killed in the line of duty, from William Palfrey (lost at sea, 1780) to Antoinette Tomasek (car crash in Haiti, 2013). The Marines are there to protect the records, not them (and only 1/3rd of posts have Marine guards, for that matter -- we should fix that, but Republicans keep blocking us).

I was a Marine for almost a decade, and get all kinds of kudos and cheers wherever I go. My wife has been an FSO for even longer, in some incredibly risky posts (Haiti during the quake, Sri Lanka during the civil war, etc.) but she doesn't get drinks bought for her at the bar like I do. That's messed up.

But it absolutely infuriates me when Republicans act like Benghazi was some kind of unprecedented thing: Foreign Service Officers put their lives on the line every ****ing day and get none of the thanks from Republicans for it that we military vets do. For those curious, here is the online Memorial to those officers who died serving the United States in the Foreign Service.

Despite the rumors, nobody in the FS "bought" their job, except by missing weddings, funerals, births, and other events for 2/3rds of their adult life. Even among ambassadors, who can be politically appointed, 3/5ths are career foreign service officers. This is a dedicated and brave cadre of people that we should be glad are working for us, and they deserve better than being political footballs for Darrell Issa.

Thanks to Recursion (33,107 posts)
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 06:50 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:

Show me. I make it a point to blame Islam. The Muslim is just another victim of Islam.


That's laughble,and more so because you actually believe that ****. Kindly explain "the Muslim is another victim of Islam."
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parados
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 07:41 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Quote:
Saudi Arabia has about 1.6% of the world's muslims. But don't let that stop you from claiming that a small percentage of a small percentage is equal to the whole.


I never said it was all Muslims, you keep saying that. What I have said there is a very, very sizable number. And that terrorists tend to be educated and wealthy. That you dismiss the problem is ludicrous and proves you do not consider countless examples of the hate Islam can and does inspire.



Oh how stupid of me. You are saying a small percentage of 1.6% is a sizable [sic] number.

Meanwhile 99.9% of Muslims don't act the way you claim they do.
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parados
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 07:51 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:



Show me. I make it a point to blame Islam. The Muslim is just another victim of Islam.


Leave it to Pinkie to argue that Osama is a victim. That is what you mean, isn't it Pinkie, since you want to argue you don't blame the Muslims themselves when you blame Islam.

Of course you would have to believe we are complete idiots to accept the argument that you blame the religion but none of it's followers. When you blame the religion as a whole you clearly are blaming all the followers.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:04 am
@parados,
Quote:
When you blame the religion as a whole you clearly are blaming all the followers.


I am blaming the religion/ideology for what it has done and inspired. It is devout Muslims that carry out jihad. And jihad is a religious obligation.

You of course want to avoid that and call me a bigot. Let me remind you bigots don't need reasons and don't need facts. The bigots in Islam prove that daily. Unless you think innocent children threatens Islam in some way.

In other words you do not wish to discuss what Islam does. Who you think I blame has little to do with actions like these:

Quote:
Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.05.03 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - Seven people are laid out by an al-Shabaab bomb blast at a busy intersection.
2014.05.03 (Mombasa, Kenya) - A suspected member of Kenya's Muslim minority throws a grenade into a bus, aerating four passengers.
2014.05.03 (Tikrit, Iraq) - Four Shia pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by Sunni car bombers.
2014.05.02 (Hama, Syria) - Eleven children are among eighteen innocents disassembled by two suicide car bombers.
2014.05.02 (El-Tor, Egypt) - One passenger is killed when a suicide bomber detonates next to a bus.
2014.05.02 (Benghazi, Libya) - Islamists storm a police station and murder nine people.

* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Who do you blame for those attacks?
parados
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:17 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
When you blame the religion as a whole you clearly are blaming all the followers.


I am blaming the religion/ideology for what it has done and inspired. It is devout Muslims that carry out jihad. And jihad is a religious obligation.

You of course want to avoid that and call me a bigot. Let me remind you bigots don't need reasons and don't need facts.
It seems you are calling yourself a bigot here. Jihad is not a religious obligation. Hajj is considered an obligation but jihad hardly is unless you are going to argue that 99% of muslims are not devout which would lead us to your not needing facts or reasons when you blame a religion for the actions of a few in that religion.

coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:23 am
@parados,
Quote:
for the actions of a few


It is not just a few. Your knowledge only extends as far as your apologies for something you are scared to admit or do anything about..

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/islam_intolerant_terrorist_religion.gif
parados
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:35 am
@coldjoint,
Not just a few? What percent do you think it is?
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:41 am
@parados,
Quote:
What percent do you think it is?


http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/010556.html

Quote:
Writing at the Weekly Standard, Robert Satloff takes apart a new book by John Esposito and Dalia Mogahed, both of them professional pro-Islam propagandists, published by the Gallup organization, where Mogehed is executive director of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies. Satloff shows how, through fraudulent definition of the word “radical,” the authors make it appear that a multi-year study of Muslim opinion worldwide showed that only seven percent of Muslims are radical, when, in reality, by any fair reading of the authors’ own polling data, the correct number is 37 percent.

There is your answer
Quote:
The authors define Muslim radicals as those who say the 9/11 attack was “completely justified,” which was seven percent of the sample. However, there were two other categories of respondents who said that the attack was at least partially justified, and they are labeled by the authors as “moderates.” The first of those groups comprises 6.5 percent of the sample, the second comprises 23.1 percent. Further, the respondents in that last category, making up 23.1 percent, also said that they hate America, want to impose Sharia law, support suicide bombing, and oppose equal rights for women. Yet Esposito and Mogahed call them “moderates.”

7 plus 6.5 plus 23.1 equals 36.6 percent of 1.2 billion Muslims, or 439 million radical Muslims in the world. Just a tiny unrepresentative minority.
parados
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:45 am
@coldjoint,
So 37% of muslims are terrorists killing others in your viewpoint. Where do those 37% live? Where are all the bodies of the people they have killed? Or are you now arguing jihad is sitting around doing nothing?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:52 am
@parados,
Quote:
Where are all the bodies of the people they have killed?

A lot are in mass graves, some have been thrown to packs of wild dogs, and some have been hung from bridges or buildings.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:56 am
@coldjoint,
So you are saying they are killing over 400 million a year but no one knows because they are hiding the bodies? Or are you saying that the number of dead isn't even close to the 437 million you claim are conducting Jihad?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:56 am
@parados,
Just one month.
Quote:
Jihad Report
April, 2014
Jihad Attacks: 203


Countries: 23


Religions: 5


Dead Bodies: 1571


Critically Injured: 2452

coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:59 am
@parados,
Quote:
So you are saying they are killing over 400 million


Why do you keep lying? My link said there are over 400 million Islamists, not how many were killed. If you can't stop lying, don't bother to respond.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 09:59 am
@coldjoint,
203 attacks is a far cry from the 437 million jihadists you claimed. At that rate most of them would go their whole lives without every attacking anyone. Aren't you arguing that jihadists commit terror acts? Based on your numbers that would mean less than 250,000 attacks in 100 years. What are the other 436.75 million jihadists doing that proves they are terrorists if they aren't attacking anyone?
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