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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 12:08 pm
@parados,
Quote:
You can provide millions murdered by Islam in the last couple of months


I did not say that. I will take this chance to educate you. Mohammed is a role model. He is held up as the perfect man. In over 90 verses that say to emulate him.

So the millions of killers, rapists,and pedophiles who believe this never changes as it is a continuing output and a quest for every devout Muslim.


The millions I was referring to was the sheer number of what you call "radical"Islam. If you wish to show me that number(250 million+) of fanatical and violent and murdering Christians, go for it.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 12:11 pm
@parados,
Quote:
So you are arguing that the USA is not a christian country?


I am saying the majority religion is not behind government foreign policy. And the wars and things we do are determined by mens laws not church doctrine.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 12:46 pm
@coldjoint,
Funny, that's the same thing in most of those countries you are complaining about.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 12:49 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Funny, that's the same thing in most of those countries you are complaining about.


Bullshit. And I have not singled out countries I have singled out Islam..
parados
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 02:55 pm
@coldjoint,
Islam isn't a country so your arguments about imposing sharia law is impossible if you never mentioned countries.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 06:28 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Islam isn't a country


That is the only true thing you have said. But Sharia is Islam. Again you show your ignorance of Islamic doctrine and the fact government and the legal system all are part of it. It is a complete system, as abhorrent as it is.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 06:52 pm
@coldjoint,
Yes, in most cases sharia law is based on Islam, but as in any religion, there are extremists. Many sharia laws are based on secular laws, not religious ones.

You really don't know much of anything, and continue to show how ignorant you really are.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 06:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Many sharia laws are based on secular laws,


You really are an idiot. Nothing is secular in Islam.

Quote:
Some common laws of “Islamic Sharia” which are regularly practiced in the Islamically ruled (Sharia-based) nations with some minor variations:

1- Jihad defined as “to war against all non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.
3- The head of an Islamic State (Caliph) cannot be charged, let alone be punished for serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape (Hudood cases) - Codified Islamic Law Vol 3 # 914C of and page 188 of Hedaya the Hanafi manual.
4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.
5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.
8- A Muslim who leaves Islam (apostate) must be killed immediately.
9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : a) an apostasy b) an adulterer c) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.
10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.
11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave. Slavery still exists amongst Arab Muslims.

Jihad defined as “to war against all non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule. Quran - 9:111 Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah ? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, for sins like killing, adultery, prostitutions; and other Quranic corporal punishments like: amputation of limbs (chopping hands and feet), floggings, beatings and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for the sins like: stealing, sexual promiscuity, robbery, burglary etc.
13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia (pay Zizzya: poll tax) if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their own religious scriptures, or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.
14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, Muslims can curse, criticize or say anything derogatory they like to the religions of others.
15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.
16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.
17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.
18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.
19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.
20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.
21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.
22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.
23- There is no common property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.
24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits. Sister gets half of what brother gets.
25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and wife has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.
26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.
27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and also with women captured in battle (concubines), and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.
28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man; that is, two women equal to one man.
29- A woman looses custody if she remarries.
30- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.
31- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.
32- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”
33-It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory and is known as Taqiyya (Islamic Deception). That means that for the sake of abiding with Islam’s commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying.

The above are clear-cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammed’s life.

34. The perpetrators of genocide, mass rape and plunder will not be punished if they repent - Codified Islamic Law Vol 1 # 13.
35. To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses. Women’s testimony is not accepted - Pakistan’s Hudood ordnance 7 of 1979 amended by 8B of 1980. Thousands of raped women and girls in many countries have been charged with Zena (physical relations outside marriage) and punished by Sharia courts for want of witnesses.
36. All modern music including sexually explicit music of any kind is strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only Islamic songs are allowed.


Show me what is secular.
http://islammonitor.org/index.php?id=4050&option=com_content

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 06:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here's an explanation from Wiki.
Quote:
Islam and secularism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The definition and application of Secularism, especially the place of religion in society, varies among Muslim countries as it does among European countries and the United States.[1] Secularism is often used to describe the separation of public life and civil/government matters from religious teachings and commandments, or simply the separation of religion and politics. Secularism in Muslim countries is often contrasted with Islamism, and secularists tend to seek the ideology of promoting the secular political and social values as opposed to Islamic one. Among western scholars and Muslim intellectuals, there are some debates over Secularism which include the understanding of political and religious authorities in the Islamic world and the means and degree of application of sharia in legal system of the state.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 07:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Here's an explanation from Wiki.


They whitewash Islam.
Quote:
ideology of promoting the secular political and social values as opposed to Islamic one.

How is the opposition going? I see a lot of executions in Iran. And I see terror wherever secularism rears its head in the Muslim world.
Islam has 0 to offer the free world. And is participating in bringing it to an end. Hand in hand with the progressive fascists that are at work to extinguish Western civilization.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 01:59 pm
@coldjoint,
And you are totally disregarding the Pew study on Sharia law that you used earlier.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 02:10 pm
@parados,
Quote:
And you are totally disregarding the Pew study


And the Pew study neglected the to point out the numbers we are dealing with.
You can't minimize the problem with Islam by saying that Islam will do what Muslims think. It doesn't work that way. There are no choices. The fundamental doctrine is very clear on what we be enforced.

And if you look at who is running things, it is the terrorists.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 02:38 pm
@coldjoint,
You,
Quote:
You can't minimize the problem with Islam by saying that Islam will do what Muslims think


Can you minimize the problem with Christianity by saying christian faith will do what Christian's think?

Your thinking makes no sense or have any sense of logic.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 02:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Can you minimize the problem with Christianity


What is the problem?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 02:49 pm
@coldjoint,
You don't understand analogy either? Not surprising. You're too ******* dumb.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 02:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You don't understand analogy either?


You don't understand apologizing. Islam is own its own. Its hateful doctrine has no comparison. Trying to drag down other religions solves nothing. Pinhead.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 3 May, 2014 06:19 pm



http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/05/raising-muslim-youth-in-knoxville/<br />

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Raising Muslim youth in Knoxville

Quote:

The Islamic Education Foundation of Knoxville (IEFK) was established in 1999 by the Muslim Community of Knoxville (MCK) Shura Board in order to raise money for a private Islamic school. Today, the IEFK lists the same mailing address as the Annoor Academy Islamic school. One of the main backers of this school is Nadeem Siddiqi.

Nadeem Siddiqi is a Board member of the Knoxville Annoor Mosque (also known as the MCK) and the Annoor Academy school board. Working alongside Rafiq Mahdi, Siddiqi is active in dawa (proselytizing Islam) in Knoxville.

[The Muslim Community of Knoxville]

A Nadeem Siddiqi is listed with Naseem Siddiqi, on the bank loan used by the IEFK to build the Annoor Academy Islamic school. The loan amount was $1,250,000. The building project’s financial report also lists $1,352,310 from local, out-of-town and overseas donations and $68,000 from an Amana investment.

References to Amana in the context of financial investments typically refers to a sharia compliant financing foundation. The main purpose of sharia compliant finance is to promote sharia. Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Sheikh al-Qaradawi, banned from entering the U.S. and Britain, is quoted in the Amana prospectus documents. He describes sharia compliant finance as “jihad with money.”

Is this the same Nadeem Siddiqi who tried to impose his sharia ban on alcohol against a legitimate business owner expanding his business according to state law?

In speaking against the 2011 anti-terrorism bill material support bill which some mischaracterized as an effort to ban the religious aspects of Sharia law, Siddiqi explained: “Shariah is how I know how to fast in the month of Ramadan; how I wash before my prayers,” … “It also directs me in how much charity I need to give to the poor. It orders me to be honest and fair in my business dealings.”(with Muslims)

Is this the same Nadeem Siddiqi named in a 2012 lawsuit for defrauding the government by submitting false Medicare and Medicaid bills? Was it someone else’s company that had to share in repaying over $4 million dollars to settle the case?

Nonetheless, Siddiqi assists as a community mentor to the Roots program team and appears to be an owner of the property on which the Roots Center was established. Roots is a “full-time youth program serving the spiritual and social needs of young (Muslim) adults, professionals and families.” Programming includes retreats, sports tournaments field trips, leadership development — in other words, a comprehensive way to insulate and keep Muslims from participating and assimilating into the larger community in which they live.

AbdelRahman Murphy, a former intern with Muslim Brotherhood CAIR, who now serves as the Roots Youth Director, is on the faculty at the Annoor Academy. He also helps with programming for the Muslim Students Association at UT Knoxville. In other words, he has the opportunity to influence the students at every stage of their education.

Murphy’s Islamic studies included a program in Saudi Arabia and “some time” spent in Egypt. His friend Imam Suhaib Webb is a Religious Mentor in the Roots program. Imam Webb, a convert to Islam, was sent by the a U.S. chapter of the Muslim American Society (MAS), to Al-Azhar University in Cairo to complete his Islamic training.

Upon his return from Egypt, he was hired as the Imam for the Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) in Roxbury, a mosque managed by MAS-Boston. This mosque is the sister campus of the Islamic Society of Boston (ISB) mosque attended by the Boston marathon bombers. Both Webb’s mosque and the ISB are affiliated with the Muslim American Society and the leadership of the mosques are intertwined. “More than half of the $15.5 million used to found the Boston mosque came from Saudi sources.”

ISB’s founding president Abdurahman Alamoudi, is now “serving a 23-year prison sentence for illegal dealings with Libya and his involvement in a plot to assassinate Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah.” In 2012 he verified that “[e]veryone knows that MAS is the Muslim Brotherhood.”

These may be just some of the reasons that Massachusetts’ Governor disinvited Imam Webb from speaking at the interfaith service after the Boston bombing.

Webb and Murphy: colleagues who both teach Jew hatred

“O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.” — Quran 5:51

Consistent with Islamic doctrine and what Knoxville Annoor Academy students are taught, Webb and Murphy reinforce the anti-Jew message to the students they mentor. Webb spreads the anti-Israel BDS (boycott, divestment and sanctions) message directly, while Murphy uses propaganda films like 5 Broken Cameras.

Never one to be left out of a gathering of Islamic fundamentalists, Remziya Suleyman will be joining Murphy and Webb at a June “Reviving Ramadan” retreat.

There is so much more to know about Muslim Knoxville — this is merely the tip of the iceberg.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Between the textbook being used at Annoor Academy and the individuals working to influence young Muslims growing up in Knoxville, Tennesseans can expect more radicalization and ever growing demands for sharia accommodations in the public square.

Self-styled leaders like Remziya Suleyman will continue to seek out long-standing Islamists to support her efforts to attain political power. They in turn are willing to use her as a convenient and even sympathetic public presence. Regardless, efforts in Knoxville to cultivate a second generation of fundamentalist Islamists seems to be making solid inroads.


This is sedition. Terror or support of it is sedition anywhere, right?
parados
 
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Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 10:47 am
@coldjoint,
Actually, the young conservative website you used as a source simply made up numbers.
When 60% of muslims live in 4 countries you can't use countries where 5% or less live to claim that is what muslims think. But that is the kind of nonsense you like to use.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 10:49 am
Saudi Arabia has about 1.6% of the world's muslims. But don't let that stop you from claiming that a small percentage of a small percentage is equal to the whole.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 4 May, 2014 10:50 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:





This is sedition. Terror or support of it is sedition anywhere, right?

But if idiots with guns show up and point them at federal agents, it isn't sedition. I don't think you know the meaning of the word.
 

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