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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 11:50 am
@parados,
Quote:
So then Obama didn't lie about Benghazi?


He did not tell the truth either. In politics that is as good as lie. The fact that a terror attack could lose him the election led to a cover up and quite a ridiculous reason for that attack.

Remember Susan Rice and the video? Hillary and the video? Obama at the UN and the video?

How can you defend an obviously deceitful snake? Never mind I know the answer.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 12:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Re: bobsal u1553115 (Post 5636314)
Quote:

CBO Estimates U.S. Deficit Will Shrink More Than Expected in 2014-



So will the participation in the labor force. There are no jobs out there. And the part time jobs are not enough and the majority of new hires.
http://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2013/7/11/saupload_Full-Time-vs-Part-time-16-plus-since-2000_thumb1.png
Quote:

It is certainly possible that the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) is playing a role in employer decisions about full-time versus part-time employment. The $2,000 per employee penalty for employers who do not comply with regulations has influenced some employers to begin shifting their employment policies. Earlier this month President Obama pushed the start of the penalty from January 2014 to January 2015. But the June CPS data would have preceded that extension. Moreover, the anticipation of the penalty, even though delayed a year, will probably continue to influence the interim decisions of private employers.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/1543592-full-time-versus-part-time-employment-a-closer-look


Dshort.com.

you're either dishonest or stupid.
I vote all of the above.

A freaking web page only "financial adviser" Doug Short vs the GAO, the CBO ...... hmmmmmm ......

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/commentaries/dshort_041114.php

However, I do appreciate the use of references, thank-you. The objective though is to use more unimpeachable sources.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 12:07 pm
Quote:
Obama’s Census Bureau Officially Plans To Cook Obamacare’s Books


Look at that more numbers that will favor this administration and the Democratic coming up. At least this time we know up front these numbers will never tell us how bad Obamacare is doing.

Outright manipulation of the facts.


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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 12:16 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
So then Obama didn't lie about Benghazi?


He did not tell the truth either. In politics that is as good as lie. The fact that a terror attack could lose him the election led to a cover up and quite a ridiculous reason for that attack.

Remember Susan Rice and the video? Hillary and the video? Obama at the UN and the video?

How can you defend an obviously deceitful snake? Never mind I know the answer.




And what would you suggest other than that, CJ?

They all lie...or withhold the truth. It is a part of the job of being a politician.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 12:45 pm
@coldjoint,
And Bush didn't tell the truth about Iraq. So what is your standard? It's OK for a GOP President to be a "deceitful snake" but not a black Democrat?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:01 pm
@parados,
Quote:
And Bush didn't tell the truth about Iraq. So what is your standard?


Wrong again, both Bush and a bipartisan Congress believed those Intelligence reports. You are comparing two different things. Obama knew he was lying Bush did not. Argument over.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:04 pm
@coldjoint,
You just proved me correct.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:06 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
They all lie...or withhold the truth.


Especially before a presidential election. After already suppressing the Conservative message with the IRS for 2 years( since Citizens United verdict). Basically fraud.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:08 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
And Bush didn't tell the truth about Iraq. So what is your standard?


Wrong again, both Bush and a bipartisan Congress believed those Intelligence reports. You are comparing two different things. Obama knew he was lying Bush did not. Argument over.


You cannot know whether Bush knew...or if he cooked the books. If he did cook the books...the congress may have relied on cooked books.

To suggest you know that one was lying and the other not...is laughable, CJ.

You are just digging the hole deeper.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:09 pm
@parados,
Quote:
You just proved me correct.


Sorry doesn't work that way. You cannot be correct when I am. Like I said ,you make no decisions, or set no conditions, on me or on this forum.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:10 pm
@coldjoint,
I don't have to set conditions. You set your own conditions and then proceed to violate them for all to see.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:10 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
They all lie...or withhold the truth.


Especially before a presidential election. After already suppressing the Conservative message with the IRS for 2 years( since Citizens United verdict). Basically fraud.




Oh, my heavens. First you accuse politicians of lying...now you are accusing them of lying and doing other things to improve their chances of getting elected.

Is there no end to the incredible revelations you have for us?

C'mon, CJ.

STOP DIGGING! You are already deep enough.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:22 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
To suggest you know that one was lying and the other not...is laughable, CJ.


Well, when you look at the circumstances and see you are once again employing your favorite one wrong justifies another. You refuse to admit Obama is the most deceitful president we have ever had. And the fact we can do something about it this time.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:27 pm
@parados,
.
Quote:
You set your own conditions and then proceed to violate them for all to see.


Wrong again. More liberal arrogance. First, by telling others my conditions. Second by telling others you can say I violated them. You do not have the power to do either. Give it up Shill. My posts say loud and clear what you wish people not to hear.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:29 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
To suggest you know that one was lying and the other not...is laughable, CJ.


Well, when you look at the circumstances and see you are once again employing your favorite one wrong justifies another.


At no point have I ever suggested that. That is a straw man...one you built because you have no argument without it...and one you continue to proclaim despite the fact that I have told you I have never suggested that.


Quote:
You refuse to admit Obama is the most deceitful president we have ever had.


My guess is he would be considered a rank amateur as a liar when compared with George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan.

In any case, one would not "admit" that Obama is the most deceitful president we have ever had...one would assert that in the face of evidence it is not so.


Quote:
And the fact we can do something about it this time. [/color]




Like?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:33 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Is there no end to the incredible revelations you have for us?


Have you read my signature? The denial about Obama is ludicrous. How many times do his actions and lies have to tear down this country and divide people by color and income before you realize the man is a pariah and the progressive message is one huge lie to establish control and severely limit liberty.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:40 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Is there no end to the incredible revelations you have for us?


Have you read my signature?



Yes.

Quote:
The denial about Obama is ludicrous.


The idea that you consider it ludicrous...is LUDICROUS.


Quote:
How many times do his actions and lies have to tear down this country and divide people by color and income before you realize the man is a pariah and the progressive message is one huge lie to establish control and severely limit liberty.[/color]


You do not like him.

Fine. You are allowed to do that.

But to suppose some of the stuff you are supposing says MUCH more about YOU...than it does about Barack Obama.

Ask a professional. You'll see.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:48 pm
@coldjoint,
Your posts say loud and clear that you have differing standards for black Presidents and white Presidents.
One is accused of lying when he repeats what intelligence services told him. The other is given a pass.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:52 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
You do not like him.


Much more important is I do not like what he is doing and they way he is doing it.
Personally I think he lacks character and is a manipulating opportunist hack.
But personal opinions shouldn't matter.(unless you are targeted by the Gay Mafia) The law should, and he has abused his power countless times and continues to hide behind the race card. The people voting in the mid terms know that.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 15 Apr, 2014 01:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
You do not like him.


Much more important is I do not like what he is doing and they way he is doing it.
Personally I think he lacks character and is a manipulating opportunist hack.
But personal opinions shouldn't matter.(unless you are targeted by the Gay Mafia) The law should, and he has abused his power countless times and continues to hide behind the race card. The people voting in the mid terms know that.



I've never personally heard him use the race card.

Can you give me a quote or several...since you seem to think he does it often.

I voted for him because I think he was BY FAR the better candidate.
 

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