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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2014 11:12 pm
@wmwcjr,
Quote:
very low social and legal status of women in Saudi Arabia,


It hasn't changed. And the new film about Muslim honor killings is being a called Islamophobic and banned at universities. Feminists and liberals say nothing.

The religion does nothing but put the lefts hypocrisy directly in the spotlight. And the replies of hater and bigot fly with "gay" abandon to anyone who tells them that.
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 01:38 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

You would think feminists in the US would be troubled by sex-selection abortion.

I have two daughters who are now young adults. They have excelled academically and are quite honorable in the way they treat others. Both of them are better human beings than I was at their ages. So I didn't have a son, so what? I couldn't be more proud of my daughters.


I'm absolutely pro-choice, but consider sex selection abortion to be completely abhorrent.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 07:04 am
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/ColeJ/2014/ColeJ20140406_low.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 07:05 am
@Wilso,
Absolutely right.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 07:06 am
@coldjoint,
I see you still have presented no numbers. You have merely attempted to change the subject.

You claim Obama is a liar and is hiding things because he releases numbers then you attempt to claim you are not a liar and are more honest than Obama when you can give us no numbers.

Who should we trust? The person that actually gives us numbers or the one that doesn't? Hmmmm.... that's so difficult a choice.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 07:16 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Quote:

So you have no numbers.




I do not need to posts numbers to prove deception and manipulation. The actions and stonewalling of this administration are more than adequate proof.

And you view of what is real, and what is not, is based on lies( at best half truths). And no matter what you say I and others will never see it any other way.


Like you never heard this before, "what does that supposed to mean"? That you don't need facts and figures? That if pulling them out of your ass is good enough for you it should beg good enough for us? You've never seen a fact you couldn't ignore or misunderstand.

Anyone who screams how bad the President is without any basis in fact is most likely a racist. So did your mom pick up some bargains at the white sale?


Any half truth I have grasp of by itself is more than you've offered up yourself in total on this forum. Your mom weeps.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 07:48 am
Uninsured Rate Falls To Lowest Since 2008: Gallup
Source: AP

A major new survey finds that a growing percentage of Americans gained health insurance as the initial sign-up season for President Barack Obama's health care law drew to a close last month.


Released Monday, the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index measured the share of adults without health insurance. That shrank from 17.1 percent at the end of last year to 15.6 percent for the first three months of 2014.

The decline of 1.5 percentage points would translate roughly to more than 3.5 million people gaining coverage. The trend accelerated as the March 31 enrollment deadline loomed.


"The Affordable Care Act, commonly referred to as 'Obamacare,' appears to be accomplishing its goal of increasing the percentage of Americans with health insurance," said Gallup's analysis of the findings.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/07/uninsured-rate-obamacare_n_5102963.html
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 08:56 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
would translate roughly to more than 3.5 million people gaining coverage.


7.1 million? It is already proven most had insurance that was cancelled. There is no way half of them(your number) were uninsured. Try again.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 09:07 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Anyone who screams how bad the President is without any basis in fact is most likely a racist.


Why? Because his failures are so bad you have no other answer? That is all that is.

And your constant references to my family show how mean spirited and disrespectful you are. Obama is a public figure. He is subject to this kind of rhetoric, from both sides, my family is not.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 09:19 am
http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/talltales-1024x925.jpg
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:00 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:



7.1 million? It is already proven most had insurance that was cancelled. There is no way half of them(your number) were uninsured. Try again.

No, it hasn't been proven that is the case. Some idiot made an assumption based on ignoring the millions that simply got a new policy without going through the exchanges and then a number of other idiots believed the first one.

Numbers don't lie but it seems RW idiots prefer to not use numbers.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:09 am
@coldjoint,
Just for you and you fact impaired eyesight.

Look At How Many Obamacare Enrollees Were Uninsured: 5.4 Million
As we observed earlier this week, one of the obsessions of opponents of the Affordable Care Act is the question of how many enrollees in Obamacare health plans already had insurance. The goal is to knock down the latest enrollment numbers by suggesting that most of the 7.1 million people enrolled through the individual insurance exchanges just moved from one insurance plan to another in a waste of time and effort. The real figure probably won’t be known for weeks, even months. But researchers at the Urban Institute’s Health Policy Center have weighed in with their own estimate. They’re figuring that the ACA has reduced the number of uninsured Americans by 5.4 million from the first quarter of 2013 through early March this year.

Their estimate is based on data from their March 2014 Health Reform Marketing Survey, which consists of public polling. Their finding is that the uninsurance rate for adults ages 18–64 was 15.2% for the nation in early March, a decline of 2.7 percentage points since September 2013, just before open enrollment on the exchanges began Oct. 1. ”This represents a gain in coverage for about 5.4 million adults,” they write. Although the Urban Institute figures aren’t keyed to the enrollment figures, it’s worth observing that if all those newly insureds were among those who signed up on the individual exchanges, that would mean that of the 7.1 million enrollees, 77% were previously uninsured.

More here: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-enrollees-were-uninsured-20140403,0,3487004.story#axzz2xsdlUZSN

The LATimes, not the freep.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:14 am
Republicans Quietly Make an Important Fix To Obamacare That Democrats Wanted
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/06/republicans-quietly-important-fix-obamacare-democrats-wanted.html

Republicans Quietly Make an Important Fix To Obamacare That Democrats Wanted
By: Jason Easley more from Jason Easley
Sunday, April, 6th, 2014, 10:48 am


While they publicly scream for the law’s repeal, House Republicans have made another quiet fix to the ACA that Democrats wanted.

The AP reported:

At the prodding of business organizations, House Republicans quietly secured a recent change in President Barack Obama’s health law to expand coverage choices, a striking, one-of-a-kind departure from dozens of high-decibel attempts to repeal or dismember it.

Democrats describe the change involving small-business coverage options as a straightforward improvement of the type they are eager to make, and Obama signed it into law. Republicans are loath to agree, given the strong sentiment among the rank and file that the only fix the law deserves is a burial.

….

No member of the House GOP leadership has publicly hailed the fix, which was tucked, at Republicans’ request, into legislation preventing a cut in payments to doctors who treat Medicare patients.


Reps. John Boehner (R-OH) and Eric Cantor (R-VA) did such a good job of hiding the fix in the bill that many House Republicans might have had no idea that they were voting on this Obamacare fix. Last month, House Republican leaders introduced three fixes to the ACA while their party was distracted by CPAC.

It is obvious that House Republican leaders intend to fix the unintended consequences of the law, as they simultaneously campaign on destroying Obamacare. Republican voters are being lied to by their own leaders. The Republican led House seems to have no intention of getting rid of the ACA. If they were serious about getting rid of it, why would they pass improvements?

House Republicans have a political interest in keeping the ACA on the books. If Republicans repealed the law, they couldn’t campaign against it anymore. Republicans believe that Obamacare is one of the few issues that will get their voters to the polls, so their actions will continue to not match their words.

There is no bigger sign of totality of the GOP defeat on the ACA than these quiet fixes that House Republican leaders continue to pass.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:17 am
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/140407-aca-causes-sharp-drop-in-uninsured.jpg
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:19 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Look At How Many Obamacare Enrollees Were Uninsured: 5.4 Million


Uninsured because their policies were cancelled.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:22 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Their estimate is based on data from their March 2014 Health Reform Marketing Survey,


So it did not take into consideration how many were cancelled, just who signed up. And there is still no proof how many have paid.

Quote:
that would mean that of the 7.1 million enrollees, 77% were previously uninsured.


But for how long? That high percentage is due to the cancellations the law caused.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:35 am
@parados,
Quote:
Who should we trust?


The Obama administration has lied repeatably to the American people. Their credibility is gone. So your answer is trust anyone but them.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:40 am
Quote:
BILL KRISTOL: The Rand Corporation says about 800,000 of those people were previously uninsured. Eight hundred thousand out of seven million, the huge bulk of them previously insured.

So big deal. He moved people from insurance plans they liked to -- forced them into the exchanges. That's like saying you've got to give the Soviet Union a lot of credit, 200 million people bought bread in their grocery stories. If it's the only place you can buy health insurance, they're going to get people to buy health insurance there.

The debate is not over. The president tried to say this week, oh, the debate is over. No way. The Obamacare debate is real.

But, you know, on that ad, which I like, actually, that's a response to the ads attacking the Kochs, obviously. But it's also an attempt to tell Republicans, you do not -- don't let them tie you into the insurance companies.

That has been -- the best Democratic talking point in response to the failure of Obamacare is, the Republicans want to go back to the old system, the pre-Obamacare. And there I think they need to have an alternative to answer that. And Republicans in the pocket of the insurance companies.

Those ads say, no, Democrats actually -- the Obama administration worked with the insurance companies…


Rand Corporation. 800,ooo. Number.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/06/kristol_on_obamacare_numbers_like_saying_youve_got_to_give_the_soviet_union_a_lot_of_credit.html
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 10:46 am
Quote:
Put aside the numbers for a moment, and the daily argument.

“Seven point one million people have signed up!”

“But six million people lost their coverage and were forced onto the exchanges! That’s no triumph, it’s a manipulation. And how many of the 7.1 million have paid?”


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2014/04/the-7-1-million-who-signed-up-for-obamacare/
parados
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 11:03 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:


Uninsured because their policies were cancelled.

They were uninsured when they had policies? No wonder their policies were crappy.
 

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