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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 11:54 am
@Frank Apisa,
It also doesn't say that it is working with no issues. Sure it can be adjusted but only by raising the taxes we pay into SS. Or I guess you could have rich people pay more into a system that they will never use. Or we could allow for younger people such as myself to invest my SS into the stock market. That way if there is no money, I can only blame myself and not anyone else. The way things are going right now, it will be out of money and I doubt it will be there when I'm ready for it.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 11:57 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

It also doesn't say that it is working with no issues. Sure it can be adjusted but only by raising the taxes we pay into SS. Or I guess you could have rich people pay more into a system that they will never use. Or we could allow for younger people such as myself to invest my SS into the stock market. That way if there is no money, I can only blame myself and not anyone else. The way things are going right now, it will be out of money and I doubt it will be there when I'm ready for it.


But no one is going to allow you to starve to death...or be killed by the elements if your investments do not work out, Baldimo.

The safety net programs are part of being human...or caring about fellow humans. No law that you have to do that...but understand how some feel toward you if you don't.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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It is better than the Republican "screw 'em...let 'em die."


Would that be anything like Sebelius not helping that young girl with the lung transplant?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:14 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
It is better than the Republican "screw 'em...let 'em die."


Would that be anything like Sebelius not helping that young girl with the lung transplant?


Not at all like that, CJ.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:21 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Not at all like that, CJ.


It sure is. Democrats have no special claim on compassion. Unless it is a commodity you can buy, then they do.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:54 pm


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Unions Exempt From Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements


Well isn't that nice.

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Chuck Schumer (D-NY) disagrees however, stating that “I believe there ought to be limits because the First Amendment is not absolute.”

It is absolute Mr. Schumer, and continues to be for unions. Just not certain unfriendly corporations.


Double standards for Democrats and their supporters.
http://menrec.com/unions-exempt-campaign-finance-disclosure-requirements/
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Not at all like that, CJ.


It sure is. Democrats have no special claim on compassion. Unless it is a commodity you can buy, then they do.


Actually, Democrats and progressives as a group...have much better credentials in the compassion department, CJ.

The fact that you really want that not to be the case says good things about you.

The fact that you persist in championing the conservative (lack of) agenda...not so good.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 02:57 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Actually, Democrats and progressives as a group...have much better credentials in the compassion department, CJ.


Christians are generally conservative. I think their charities and compassion outweigh anything progressives have done. Unless abortion is compassion. And of course you will post no sources to prove it.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 03:07 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Actually, Democrats and progressives as a group...have much better credentials in the compassion department, CJ.


Christians are generally conservative.


To their shame, Christians appear to be more conservative than progressive...or at least, tend to share conservative values more than conservative values.

I would guess that Jesus would not have been an American conservative if a gun were held to his head.

Christian conservatives, in my opinion, either do not understand American conservatism...or do not understand the teachings of Jesus.



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I think their charities and compassion outweigh anything progressives have done.


You are allowed to think that.


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Unless abortion is compassion.


Allowing a woman to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy is compassionate...whether you can see it or not.


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And of course you will post no sources to prove it.


If you are asserting that it is not...the burden of "proving it" falls on you.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 03:13 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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If you are asserting that it is not...the burden of "proving it" falls on you.


Wrong again Frank.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 03:17 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Allowing a woman to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy is compassionate...whether you can see it or not.


I am sure the baby understands, after all there is no choice for him or her. Have you ever noticed people that advocate abortion have already been born?
raprap
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 04:26 pm
@coldjoint,
You gonna credit Ronald Reagan on that quote ColdDope?

ColdDope has established that ColdDope isn't bright enough with independent thought. Obviously that would also include anything approaching a quotable quote.

Rap
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 04:48 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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If you are asserting that it is not...the burden of "proving it" falls on you.


Wrong again Frank.


Are you saying you can assert something...and I have to prove you are wrong???

C'mon!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 04:50 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Allowing a woman to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy is compassionate...whether you can see it or not.


I am sure the baby understands, after all there is no choice for him or her.


Could be...but I am not as sure as you are.

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Have you ever noticed people that advocate abortion have already been born?


Actually, if you think about it, all people who advocate for everything are people who have already been born.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:17 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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all people who advocate for everything are people who have already been born.


You people are dreamers, what about the ones who never get that chance? Did we abort the next Ghandi? The next Einstein? Seems those dreams are pretty selfish and controlling especially when applied to the defenseless.


wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Imagine what would have happened if Raoul Wallenberg had been aborted.

Incidentally, there was a time in this country when some conservatives were pro-choice and some liberals were pro-life.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:44 pm
@wmwcjr,
That's still the case; even some women are pro-life, and support the GOP's stance on intruding into women's viginas; they vote republican!
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:46 pm
@wmwcjr,
Not much can be done about abortion. But the option is far to tempting to the irresponsible, and the Democrats will make sure it is available just like all the other entitlements.

IMO anyone that gets an abortion should be sterilized so one life is all they can take.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 08:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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That's still the case; even some women are pro-life, and support the GOP's stance on intruding into women's viginas; they vote republican!


The Democrats hand out condoms to children.
JPB
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2014 09:08 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

They can sign up via the Fed exchange.


Not really. Technically, yes, you can "sign up" via the federal exchange but if one falls in the "coverage gap" and lives in a state where Medicaid was not expanded then there is no premium support and no Medicaid coverage. Take Kansas, for instance. To qualify for premium support one must earn at least 11,500 per year. If someone earns less than that and doesn't qualify for Medicaid (an adult without children, for example) then that person falls into what is being called the "coverage gap" and must pay the full premium without any premium support.

Technically you are correct. That person CAN sign up for insurance through the exchange, but they will pay the full cost of their coverage. Imagine trying to live on 8, 9, 10K per year and adding hundreds of dollars per month onto their living expenses.

The ACA was written with the assumption that the states would expand Medicaid coverage to those not eligible for premium support via their taxes. The states that didn't expand coverage to those people have left them without viable coverage.

http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/the-coverage-gap-uninsured-poor-adults-in-states-that-do-not-expand-medicaid/
 

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