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What is Going on in Sochi?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 06:53 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: ... I can tell you now that I think the government is screwed up and the people in the US have just as many problems as the people of the rest of the world.
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That is incredibly naive, Bella. You don't have the over 10 million dead slaughtered by foreign governments illegally invading the USA and stealing your resources.

You don't have installed brutal dictators that steal your wealth.

You don't have half a million dead children just in the 1990s as Iraq did and Madeleine Albright verily laughed about.

You don't have scores of children being born with horrific deformities caused by USA use of depleted uranium in Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas.

http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/DU-Baby2003.htm

You don't have scores of children born deformed because of USA use of agent orange in Vietnam.

You don't have hundreds of thousands of your friends and relatives who were blown to smithereens in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea, ... .


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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:37 pm
So, what you're saying now is that the US is a much better place to be?

Get your story straight.
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:39 pm
And no I didn't say any of that.

In fact, I said other places have it worse.

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:41 pm
@Bella Dea,
How can you be so glib about the horrors that the USA has inflicted upon hundreds of millions of people? Is that the USA you learned about in school?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:44 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: In fact, I said other places have it worse.

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Much much much worse courtesy of the USA.

Photos of Babies Deformed at Birth as a
Result of Depleted Uranium (DU) 2003


http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/DU-Baby2003.htm
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:45 pm
I'm not quite sure what you mean but exactly what do you think I should think about it? If you're insinuating that I don't find the things that some people have done to other people horrifying you're wrong.

But there are plenty of other governments that do that to their own people and I don't see you up in arms about that. Don't you care about those people?

What do you propose I do about it? Please, elaborate.
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:48 pm
And since you must link everything, here's a little link for you. Deformed women courtesy of countries other than the US.

There are customs and practices that are pretty horrific that the US has nothing to do with.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/2012/07/14/our-men-throw-acid-in-our-faces-destroy-our-lives-but-we-never-stop-loving-men/
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:51 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: But there are plenty of other governments that do that to their own people and I don't see you up in arms about that. Don't you care about those people?

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Can you name one of those governments as an entity that is held out to be a saviour of the oppressed, the white hat guys riding to the rescue of the downtrodden?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:54 pm
I think it's much worse to be maimed or killed by your own countrymen; the place where you are suppose to be protected. But that's just me.

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 07:59 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: There are customs and practices that are pretty horrific that the US has nothing to do with.
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Link didn't load. Where was it from?Afghanistan?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 08:04 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: I think it's much worse to be maimed or killed by your own countrymen; the place where you are suppose to be protected. But that's just me.
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You mean like this?

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Mt. Rushmore is a Shrine of HYPOCRISY!
Mt. Rushmore is a desecration of our Sacred Mother Earth and a slap in the face of Lakota peoples everywhere. Documents have stated that Mt. Rushmore in the Black Hills of South Dakota is a shrine to democracy. As you read further, you will find that American was founded on the blood and lives of Indian peoples. We question what type of democracy this shrine represents.

The four faces carved on stolen Indian lands supposedly represent the four most notable presidents of the United States. With their ideals and values defined through the study of Iroquois society, America's founding fathers are indebted to the Lakota and all Indian peoples for their mere existence. But, in the Sacred Black Hills (our church, our synagogue, our temple) those presidents carved on that granite rock were more than mere democratic deviants.

The founding fathers on that rock shared common characteristics. All four valued white supremacy and promoted the extirpation of Indian society. The United States' founding fathers were staunchly anti-Indian advocates in that at one time or another, all four provided for genocide against Indian peoples of this hemisphere.


George Washington...
In 1779, George Washington instructed Major General John Sullivan to attack Iroquois people. Washington stated, "lay waste all the settlements around...that the country may not be merely overrun, but destroyed". In the course of the carnage and annihilation of Indian people, Washington also instructed his general not "listen to any overture of peace before the total ruin of their settlements is effected". (Stannard, David E. AMERICAN HOLOCAUST. New York: Oxford University Press, 1992. pp. 118-121.)

In 1783, Washington's anti-Indian sentiments were apparent in his comparisons of Indians with wolves: "Both being beast of prey, tho' they differ in shape", he said. George Washington's policies of extermination were realized in his troops behaviors following a defeat. Troops would skin the bodies of Iroquois "from the hips downward to make boot tops or leggings". Indians who survived the attacks later re-named the nation's first president as "Town Destroyer". Approximately 28 of 30 Seneca towns had been destroyed within a five year period. (Ibid)

Thomas Jefferson...
In 1807, Thomas Jefferson instructed his War Department that, should any Indians resist against America stealing Indian lands, the Indian resistance must be met with "the hatchet". Jefferson continued, "And...if ever we are constrained to lift the hatchet against any tribe, " he wrote, "we will never lay it down till that tribe is exterminated, or is driven beyond the Mississippi." Jefferson, the slave owner, continued, "in war, they will kill some of us; we shall destroy all of them". (Ibid)

In 1812, Jefferson said that American was obliged to push the backward Indians "with the beasts of the forests into the Stony Mountains". One year later Jefferson continued anti-Indian statements by adding that America must "pursue [the Indians] to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach". (Ibid)

Abraham Lincoln...
In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61)

Theodore Roosevelt...
The fourth face you see on that "Stony Mountain" is America's first twentieth century president, alleged American hero, and Nobel peace prize recipient, Theodore Roosevelt. This Indian fighter firmly grasped the notion of Manifest Destiny saying that America's extermination of the Indians and thefts our their lands "was ultimately beneficial as it was inevitable". Roosevelt once said, "I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth". (Stannard, Op.Cit.)

The apathy displayed by these founding fathers symbolize the demoralization related to racial superiority. Scholars point toward this racial polarization as evidence of the existence of Eugenics.

Eugenics is a new term for an old phenomena which asserts that Indian people should be exterminated because they are an inferior race of people. Jefferson's suggestion to pursue the Indians to extermination fits well into the eugenistic vision. In David Stannard's study American Holocaust, he writes: "had these same words been enunciated by a German leader in 1939, and directed at European Jews, they would be engraved in modern memory. Since they were uttered by one of America's founding fathers, however...they conveniently have become lost to most historians in their insistent celebration of Jefferson's wisdom and humanity." Roosevelt feared that American upper classes were being replaced by the "unrestricted breeding" of inferior racial stocks, the "utterly shiftless", and the "worthless" (Ibid)

The impossibility of persuading those four presidents to change their belief is as realistic as the impossibility that Indian peoples will relinquish our determination in seeking the return and restoration of the sacred Black Hills. So long as the last Lakota is standing and alive, the consciousness of America will be the primary target in the Lakota struggle to regain the spiritual center: The Black Hills.

http://www.dickshovel.com/lsa3.html
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 12:24 pm
Pretty sure they lost that land in a war. It wasn't stolen.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 12:32 pm
@McGentrix,
McG: Pretty sure they lost that land in a war. It wasn't stolen.
of course that's merely MY opinion...
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And as is usually the case, an opinion based in ignorance.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 04:55 pm
@Bella Dea,
Any more info on Sochi or did that idiot manage to hijack another thread.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:00 pm
Can we all agree that Winter Olympics should only take place in places that are cold enough to sustain snow?

YES?

super.

Putin must have used his KGB skills well to pay off enough of the right people to get this done. Well either that or the brain trust at the IOC are spectacularly dumb.

The IOC puts the winter Olympics in Sochi

The NFL puts the Super Bowl in New Jersey

Tennis stars risked their lives to play a tournament on 100+ degree heat in Australia

What comes next ?
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:14 pm
@glitterbag,
You still haven't diagrammed that sentence like you promised, teach.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawk: What comes next ?

The USA abandons a 225 year tradition and decides to operate according to the rule of law?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 08:16 pm
Holy sweet baby Jesus on a cracker. I agreed with David AND Hawk in one thread?

No, Glitter...I am just not going to argue with him. He isn't going to change his mind and I have nothing I want to learn from his.

Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 08:18 pm
Love this picture.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19euvuq4vomxyjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 08:33 pm
@Bella Dea,
No, Glitter...I am just not going to argue with him. He isn't going to change his mind and I have nothing I want to learn from his.[sic]

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Good lord, can't people write correctly anymore?!
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