King Abdullah: Al Qaeda WMDs Came From Syria

Walter, Panzade was referring to: "A2K professional security experts"--which i must say, provided me a good deal of amusement as well.

Where did I edit something on this thread?

how the hell would we know, after you edited it?? you german security expert person

and I just want to say that an explosive device made from toothpaste, buffalo pee and firecracker powder is A CHEMICAL WEAPON OF MEGA MASS DESTRUCTION

Or at least it will make your dentist happy.

You are FAR too oral in this instance!

My apologies if I was mistaken Walter, I thought you added:
" Such was reported earlier this week in European/German papers/magazines as well)"

I didn't see it in the original post...(still yukking it up)

In any case, this thread reminds me of a sand castle, lovingly constructed by a bunch of kids. At the end of the day the waves of truth have reduced it to an unrecognizable pile of sand. The kids have gone home. All that's left is the sound of shrieking gulls and some bird poop where the turret used to be.

bird poop=nitrates=WoMD
turret is definitely a military reference
panzade is one of THEM!-call 911Aschroft

LOL dys

Dys, 3 sentences(sorta) and my post is destroyed...they broke the mold

Yet, I clicked on the link and although there are no links to points made in the article, the author of it, a Jack Kelly, is a contributor to his copywrited article and:

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It reminds me more of a little kid who is offered reams of evidence in black and white but instead of reading, he stands in the middle of the room with his fingers in his ears shouting "La la la la la!! I can't hear you!" If you can't believe USA Today, then who can you believe?

Alright, I'll bite...give me the USA Today link

It isn't a matter of believeing or disbelieveing USA today, it is a matter of being able to effectively interperet information. None of your c&p's, with the exception of those from crazy right-wing sources, make the case for an attack with WMD's, a strong case for AQ involvement, or for the entry of "WMD's" from Iraq. I realize that for your worldview to remain valid, you must interepret any info you read through that filter. Unfortunately for you, you seem not to have learned to discard invalid mental constructs when they are shown to be incorrect.

Actualy, of alll the stories posted here so far, USA Today may be the only one you haven't posted!

Tarantulas says


Hello? Look at the date of the NYTimes article. It is the most recent one of all articles posted here concerning the bomb plot in Jordan. Obviously, NYTimes have exclusive info from Jordan since they actually have reporters and connections in Jordan. NewsMax on the other hand, has no investigative reporters of their own. NewsMax does not do its own investigative reporting. Its arsenal of news reports comes from other news sources. The two things that Newsmax excels on are name dropping of other news sources and THEIR INSIDIOUS INJECTING OF THEIR OWN OPINIONS AS FACTS.

You can live in denial all you want but you have to face facts sooner or later. Until you can prove me wrong and post a credible, substantiated news source that backs your assertions, I'm gonna stick with my NYTimes article.

By the way, Newsmax is not "the dreaded" website. I think "disgusting" describes Newmax just fine.

Steve says,



The difference between nitric acid and hydrogen peroxide to typical WMDs is that its available to almost every nation in the world while Mustard gas and sarin gas are not just any materials freely used by every nation. Nitric acid and hydrogen peroxide are both produced commercially especially hydrogen peroxide. Nitric acid is used in the creation of TNT and nitroglycerin which can be used legitimately by industry experts for excavating and mining. Hydrogen peroxide can be used as a bleaching agent, oxidizer, disinfectant, and rocket propellant. It is true that nitric acid and hydrogen peroxide in pure form can cause serious injury when mixed with the right materials but a terrorist needs tons of it to cause WMD effects. Notice that the terrorists in Jordan needed 17.5 tons of high explosives to do their evil work.

Obviously, I did not read enough, but I still have yet to read a clear and convincing accounting of how these "chemicals" could be used, in conjunction with other materials, to cause upwards of 20,000 fatalities. Perhaps the number was an estimate that over states the possibilities. I don't know.

But I am more concerned with the bits and pieces of information that might be interpreted as Bush et al having a seriously closed mind about Syria's wishing to collaborate more on terrorist activities, particularly with regard to border security. We should beware shooting ourselves in the feet once more, particularly as how our intransience towards Syria might be interpreted by Jordan and others at real risk.

Sumac,

I guess its possible. The apprehended terrorists WERE CARRYING 17.5 TONS OF EXPLOSIVES. I guess if you have enough explosives (even less lethal ones), you can blow up just about anything. I guess that is why they got captured. You can't haul 17.5 tons of explosives without being seen by security agents. According to the NYTimes, the terrorists in Jordan were trying to do the same thing that Timothy Mcveigh did in 1995.