Craven, You asked me to invite some more conservative voices to A2K because the left has an overpowering voice that tends to deafen any conservative that is here.
Yep, this is because I don't have a problem with seeing conservative views. I welcome them.
We have had a couple come and they have gotten nothing but grief since coming here. Foxfyre has added so much more to the conversations here than many who I can mention. You know who they are, but you tend to overlook them. Either that or you have simply given up on them.
Given up is accurate. Some lefties here want to support the right through making the left look idiotic.
I do not see a problem with asking for civil debate.
Neither do I. I have an objection when it's just a pretext for intellectual dishonesty and simple outright dishonesty (i.e. simply lying).
....she has received nothing but disrespect. Same with Tarantulas, Brandon9000, and some of the other, newer conservatives.
Except that Tarantulas, Brandon9000 and Fedral usually demonstrate excellent intellectual honesty.
Allow me to highlight Brandon9000's methods. His methods are exemplar. Simply fantastic ability to retain logical standards and not resort to cheap debate ploys.
He has gotten grief, and I have stood up against it. Ask him.
Look how many of the conservatives that posted in the Roundtable simply don't post in the Politics forum because they know their voices will simply be drowned out by the screaming monkeys.
Then by all means ignore those and address the valid arguments. Foxfyre simply uses those to dismiss the valid ones and this is a cheap debate ploy.
Would it not be better to scold those that add nothing to the conversations except their smelly feces?
Dunno, tough question. I usually ignore them.
The liberals here or no less vicious than some of the conservatives have been and I have yet to see anyone's mind get changed by anything brought up here.
I've changed my minds and changed some. And I never said Foxfyre was vicious. Just intellectually dishonest.
So, I hope Foxfyre stays as I find here opinions refreshing and intelligent. I also agree with her.
Same here, cept the last part. On the other hand begging off in leiu of intellectual honesty is her problem not mine. I criticized her penchant to do so and her response is, well to do precisely that.
If you want to discuss intellectual honesty, address John Webb, Pistoff, Wilso and all those that would compare Bush with Hitler and discuss Bush's lack of intelligence etc.
, many more times than I have spoken about Foxfyre. For example, I believe it was yesterday that I told John Webb that one of his Nazi comparisons was delusional.
I very frequently criticize the "boons". Ask them.
It's true that I also ignore them, because I do not think we are on the same wavelength.
If asking for civil conversation is a crime at A2K, then you really need to have the moderators re-write the TOS as they are useless and have been as long as I have been here.
This is a mis-representation of what I said. Foxfyre is not just asking for civility. She is using it as a pretext to dismiss valid arguments.
I have no qualm with wanting civility, I do have a qualm with the intellectual dishonesty of using that as a way to avoid arguments that are
I have a qualm with it being used as her own brand of incivility (it's just part of her exit stage insults).