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Left-wing America now stands alone

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:01 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Try to reason with Gunga is you want...but you'd have better luck teaching a cow to tango!


I would never try to reason with someone so wilfully ignorant, I'm just pointing out his stupidity, but you're right, I could spend all day doing that and only just scratch the surface.
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:07 am
Oh crap!

I was hoping for the new year Ganja might have finally hit upon a pertinent topic--like how the USA stands alone in refusing the Metric System.

Some people never change----

Rap
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:41 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Explain your spelling and why it isn't consistent then you can question others David.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 01:37 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It's paid for by progressive taxation which means the super rich and their lickspittles can't avoid their social responsibility, and nothing goes into the pockets of the insurance companies. Your health care system is the most expensive and unfair in the developed world.

You keep chuckling and hope you don't come down with something that your insurance company can wriggle out of paying.




So, the nobles are still taking care of the serfs then? Do they still practice prima nocta on your daughters too?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 01:52 pm
@McGentrix,
So you've run out of ideas already. Look at the chart, your state pays more per capita than we do, and you still have to put your hand in your pocket. Your aristocracy are the ones pulling the wool over your eyes. We cottoned on to ours a long time ago.

Don't pretend you don't have an Aristocracy, the Mega rich are that in all but name.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 02:52 pm
@McGentrix,
I have no idea how it is called elsewhere, but in Germany it's called solidarity principle ("Solidaritätsprinzip").
We've got this since 1882 and it's the principle in all social insurances - the basic principle is that those with greater financial means support those in a weaker position. (Christianity and all that behind that idea.)
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 02:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

I have no idea how it is called elsewhere, but in Germany it's called solidarity principle ("Solidaritätsprinzip").
We've got this since 1882 and it's the principle in all social insurances - the basic principle is that those with greater financial means support those in a weaker position. (Christianity and all that behind that idea.)


Yeah...but you guys are mega years ahead of us, Walter. And if conservative America has its way...we will never even come close to catching up.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 03:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Yeah...but you guys are mega years ahead of us, Walter. And if conservative America has its way...we will never even come close to catching up.
Besides that - we seem to have a totally different insurance system: insurances aren't a saving bank here but ... insurances.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 04:26 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

So you've run out of ideas already. Look at the chart, your state pays more per capita than we do, and you still have to put your hand in your pocket. Your aristocracy are the ones pulling the wool over your eyes. We cottoned on to ours a long time ago.

Don't pretend you don't have an Aristocracy, the Mega rich are that in all but name.


Run out of ideas? No, just making light of the fact that people like you seem proud of the fact that you let others take care of your healthcare instead of taking care of it yourself.

Despite what the liberals want, the US was founded on taking care of yourself and supporting yourself. There are those of us that still follow that dictum and we do not rely on external support. We pay our own way through life. I would be ashamed to brag about the fact that I allow someone else to pay for anything for me.

I'd rather put my hand in my pocket then someone else's like you do.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 04:37 pm
@McGentrix,
We took care of it ourselves, we elected a Labour Government to create the NHS. Didn't you read my post and look at the chart. Your government pays more per capita than ours on health, and you still haven't got Universal Health Care. How fucked up is that? You line the pockets of the rich then lick their arses to thank them for the privilege. We stopped doing **** like that back in the Nineteenth Century.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 04:42 pm
This seems appropriate.


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when you're in a state like this
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if you believe all this but
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say yeah, say yes again
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 05:13 pm
@izzythepush,
See, Izzy, you make sense when you stick to the truth. It's your
prevaricating nature that gets you in trouble.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 07:39 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
So, the nobles are still taking care of the serfs then? Do they still practice prima nocta on your daughters too?


More like on him most likely...

You should probably leave Poop alone, he's happy about being a serf and proud of it.

I've mentioned the problem that obungacare doesn't fix anything and there's another problem which you might view as bigger:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/dec/30/dean-individual-mandate-wasnt-necessary/

Quote:

A TRUE STORY …

The Real California , (and soon, coming to your state), Obamacare, Pr...

You responsible, working and former working-retired folks will really be on board with this one................

What ObamaCare is Really About

I'm
a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000
per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are
work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For
me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade
policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible,
costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy,
same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not
making this up.

Don't believe me? Just go to www.coveredca.gov ,
the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've
mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940.
You'll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme
that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and
upper-income wage earners. But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:

I
live in Monterey County , in Central California .. We have a large land
mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado
Springs or the city of Omaha .

But we do have a large Hispanic
population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve
this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally
subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third
the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in
Belvedere, Illinois (see Google Earth View). Natividad has
state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic
Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much
more. If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or
have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's
essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is
uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32%
of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were
Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71%
listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40
were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers
paid for the other 836. And in case you were wondering about the entire
population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage
or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in
exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If
I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as
what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my
girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4
per month. That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a
zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get
when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of
$170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it's
bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in
the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of
course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies. If I
have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not
want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of
what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.

Why
must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a
dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a
month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing
that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of
full time work as an engineer . $48 is something I could could pay for
collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare
is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's
just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political
power grab. Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium
policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that
provides him such a deal? ObamaCare is about enabling, subsizdizing, and
expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense. Why
would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a
month? For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better
job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare
coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K
per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?

And
think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation
models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible,
under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and
particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more
cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At
$4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply. And not one of
them will vote Republican.

ObamaCare: It's all about political power.




coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:06 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Yeah...but you guys are mega years ahead of us, Walter. And if conservative America has its way...we will never even come close to catching up.

Ahead in starting two world wars, ahead in ruining economies, and ahead in Muslims. You are a dreamer Frank.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:15 pm
@coldjoint,
Good to see you back, Wacko.
Ceili
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:15 pm
You know what kills me about this thread... is that U.S. politics by every standard is way right of normal.
The only thing that is left of normal is the reformation of your pot laws. And that has not in anyway been influenced by the government.
While the rest of the planet, save the odd dictatorship or fanatical Islamic nation, has done away with the death penalty, you and this select group still kill and imprison great swaths of your population. even kids, hell it's an institution.
And while the rest of us, the western world, enjoy progressive women's and gay rights, more and more of your jurisdictions are working to actively restrict theirs.
Left.. hardly. You worship the rich and in doing so impoverish more and more.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 31 Dec, 2013 08:59 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Good to see you back, Wacko.


Week off for telling someone to self copulate.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 01:26 am
@coldjoint,
Now you can tell JTT to self copulate. It's fun! Twisted Evil Mr. Green Laughing
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 01:31 am
@wmwcjr,
I don t wanna know his business,
but is he a hermaphrodite ?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 04:44 am
@gungasnake,
You're the Serf, with your tongue firmly lodged up the rich man's arse, while you let him rob you blind. You really have a track record for swallowing bullshit.
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