Where are the Conservative voices?

you would find the going easier if you argued the abusive nature of devout Christians. we are willing to condemn religious fanatics up till the point we find out this particular fanatic is muslim.

Devout Christians are not abusive. That is exactly how backwards and cowardly this group is.

The real issue here isn't Iran (or any International politics).

The real issue is with people in our communities. People who want to live their lives in the US (or any free society) by incorporating their own belief traditions into the our wider culture should be defended.

The defamation and discrimination against Muslims hurts real people, and it hurts us as a society. There are real kids in public school being bullied for their religion. There are people being shunned in communities and communities being blocked from building places of worship.

People of good will have a duty to stand up against this.

You're quite right, if you demonise and isolate any part of the community you're asking for trouble.

This is a better approach. BBC Comedy series about Moslems by Moslems. It's very good.

Here is another thread by ColdJoint accusing Islam of causing rape (and necrophilia).

http://able2know.org/topic/228055-1

(I would be interested in hearing Ticomaya's reaction to this little gem.)

I am not accusing I am stating facts.

And when they isolate themselves and everyone is scared to talk about them?

Conservatives outside the USA (or only different to the racist opinion of certain members?) have a totally different approach to others then their own individual religion. For example, even our Christian Democratic Union (and its sister party, the Christian Social Union) has a couple of Muslims in leading functions.

That's nice Wally. Does that have anything to do with the authorities accusing this man of necrophilia, not me. Or does it have anything to do with the fatwah? And the evidence that supports both claims.

I 'm not current; not hip.
This means a fight among female dogs??



Surely, he must have been grateful for that information; (doubtless, it was on-topic).
This is supposed to be a free country among whose artifacts is the personal liberty
to choose one 's own opinions about anything and also to select from all available emotions
(e.g., love, fear, jealousy, hate, anger, saddness, joy, surprize, comfort) with which to address
the events of the day, or of history. (Note that I have a much higher opinion of Jews than Zippo.)

Have the citizens become bound in duty
to bring their views into accord with the liberals??

Personally, I don 't recommend hatred.

I remember the impassioned unlimited abhorrence
wherein I held the Kennedys and their ilk in the 1960s.
Every evening was a nightmare, watching the news on TV,
but that anti-Kennedy malice was a heavy burden to bear.
In retrospect, I see that it was not worth it.
It was combined with fear, in that I thought that because of their malfeasance
and disloyalty, we 'd lose the 3rd World War and communist tanks
wud eventually come rumbling down my street and I 'd need
to dispatch my mother with a gunshot to the head
as rescue from the commies.

It seems to me that we r better off without feeling hatred,
but this remains a matter of personal choice, executed in
the domain of autonomy between the ears, immune from
liberal repression and intimidation (such as Max tries to achieve here).
Hatred has well been likened to taking poison and expecting its target to die
(altho actually, he did)




David

I am gladder than u r.
Where do u find the humor ??

I just had second thoughts about that post and deleted it. Your post seems a little excessive, but I am not sure I want to discuss it here.

Then WHERE ?
Freedom means a lot to me; it always did.
I cud not see just committing suicide in fighting the commies
and abandoning my mother to take her chances with the Reds.
Communist slavery, and communist terror were very serious matters.
Like thay used to say in the movies: "the last round is for YOU."
That 's not a joke.

How do you define anti-Semitism? Certain people define it as anyone who disagrees with what Israel does no matter how bad it is. I have been called an anti-Semite many times because of this disagreement.

I have to wonder where you live. Where I live religion isent taught in secular schools. The belief is that religion is the business of the individual. And the main construction here is churches of various denominations. They are multiplying like weeds.

Nice job of hacking up my post so that you can get on your paltry soap box to preach your idiotic politco-religious beliefs.

I live in the Boston area. Religion is taught as part of social studies in the public school my children attend. We have a very diverse community and each religion is presented in a positive light, with input from members of each faith, as part of the curriculum.

I think this is a good way to do it. Religion is like sex, kids are going to be exposed to it and it is best that they learn about it first from responsible adults.

Setanta wrote:

What a petty bitch fight this has sunk to.

Read the OP. That will tell you who the bitch is.