Failed to understand " The grandest of these ideals is an American promise that everyone belongs"

InfraBlue wrote:

This quote is from George W. Bush's first inaugural address.

You do have a big mouth.

oristarA wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

oristarA wrote:

". . . The grandest of these ideals is an unfolding American promise that everyone belongs, that everyone deserves a chance, that no insignificant person was ever born. . . ."

This assertion is facially ridiculous and non-viable;
e.g., if an insignificant person was born in Spain in 1431,
then the alleged American "promise" was violated.
The USA did not even exist back then.

If I were able to, I 'd challenge that charlatan face-to-face.

David

Sorry Dave, I doubt that you will have the courage to challenge the speaker face-to-face.
Are you serious or are you kidding or bragging?

O, no. Since and during childhood, I was frequently
challenging teachers in school, or lecturers anywhere,
if their presentations had flaws or questionable aspects.
It has always come naturally to me, like a duck to water.
That 's not bragging. No courage has proven to be necessary,
just a big mouth.

For instance, qua the exhibited question of alleged American promises,
I 'd lay my ax at the root of his assertion by challenging him
to tell me WHERE I can find these alleged promises
and WHICH authority stands behind them, demanding
that he tell us when, where and under what circumstances
those alleged promises were forthcoming and demanding
to know WHAT AUTHORITY the alleged promisor had to commit me to ANYTHING.

Its not hard; just nail him down qua the specifics of his allegations
and publicly shame him for his lies. Historically and legally, I know
that he has no foundation for his assertions; just his imagination.
Trial lawyers (from whose profession I have retired)
do that all the time. That is what forensic cross-
examination is for. There is nothing new about it.

David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

oristarA wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

oristarA wrote:

". . . The grandest of these ideals is an unfolding American promise that everyone belongs, that everyone deserves a chance, that no insignificant person was ever born. . . ."

This assertion is facially ridiculous and non-viable;
e.g., if an insignificant person was born in Spain in 1431,
then the alleged American "promise" was violated.
The USA did not even exist back then.

If I were able to, I 'd challenge that charlatan face-to-face.

David

Sorry Dave, I doubt that you will have the courage to challenge the speaker face-to-face.
Are you serious or are you kidding or bragging?

O, no. Since and during childhood, I was frequently
challenging teachers in school, or lecturers anywhere,
if their presentations had flaws or questionable aspects.
It has always come naturally to me, like a duck to water.
That 's not bragging. No courage has proven to be necessary,
just a big mouth.

For instance, qua the exhibited question of alleged American promises,
I 'd lay my ax at the root of his assertion by challenging him
to tell me WHERE I can find these alleged promises
and WHICH authority stands behind them, demanding
that he tell us when, where and under what circumstances
those alleged promises were forthcoming and demanding
to know WHAT AUTHORITY the alleged promisor had to commit me to ANYTHING.

Its not hard; just nail him down qua the specifics of his allegations
and publicly shame him for his lies. Historically and legally, I know
that he has no foundation for his assertions; just his imagination.
Trial lawyers (from whose profession I have retired)
do that all the time. That is what forensic cross-
examination is for. There is nothing new about it.

David

American Promise: "When we see that wounded traveler on the road to Jericho, we will not pass to the other side."

David:"I will pass to the other side! Am I illegal?"

Yes Dave you're legal, but you're heartless. That is why there is a reason that American Promise must exist.

American Promise: "When we see that wounded traveler on the road to Jericho,
we will not pass to the other side."

David:"I will pass to the other side! Am I illegal?"

Yes Dave you're legal, but you're heartless.
That is why there is a reason that American Promise must exist.

That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider.

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider."
In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider.

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

Thay are from a Land of FREEDOM of OPINION, and of FREEDOM of SPEECH.
That 's where.

David

Better to be a "jigaboo" in America, and ride at the back of the bus,
than a citizen with his own Mercedes in Germany, then?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

Thay are from a Land of FREEDOM of OPINION, and of FREEDOM of SPEECH.
That 's where.

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

Foofie wrote:

That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider.

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

Foofie wrote:

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

You write a lot of crap.

Foofie wrote:

That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider."
In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider.

contrex wrote:

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

Thay are from a Land of FREEDOM of OPINION, and of FREEDOM of SPEECH.
That 's where.





David

Foofie wrote:

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

With all respect,
any non-citizen is an outsider.





David

Foofie wrote:

In my opinion, the inverse explains the sentence better. That meaning that in America no one is an "outsider." In Europe and elsewhere certain groups have been assigned the designation as outsider. That might have precipitated genocide, or expulsion. There are no "outsiders" officially in the U.S., even though some of the less enlightened folk do like that term, and would like to bring it to our shores, so the U.S. can become a knock-off of a homeland that resides somewhere in a collective memory, perhaps.

With all respect,
any non-citizen is an outsider.





David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

What country is it where the words kike, sheeny, redskin, darky, jigaboo, spook, spade and gook come from?

Thay are from a Land of FREEDOM of OPINION, and of FREEDOM of SPEECH.
That 's where.
David
Better to be a "jigaboo" in America, and ride at the back of the bus, than a citizen with his own Mercedes in Germany, then?