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The Democratic Party's Long and Shameful History of Bigotry

 
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 08:26 pm
@mysteryman,
so you are fine with it.

just so I'm clear...

(have you even watched it? or rodeo clowns did it so it must be ok)
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 08:32 pm
@mysteryman,
There is a big difference between Democratic bigots and Republican bigots. Republican bigots get elected.

As a Democrat, I would never vote for a candidate who goes around saying that Hispanic culture is violent by nature and that young latinos are more likely to be drug mules than valedictorians.

And yet a majority of Republicans (at least in some districts) are clearly willing to vote for just such a guy.



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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 08:42 pm
@mysteryman,
I never heard anybody call for the death of Bush. The Civil Rights Act came into law just prior to bigots turning Republican. We had lots of Democrat bigots. HAD. Repeat: They became Republicans. People hysterical over a little girl and a man even lots of Democrats avoid. I have not paid any heed to that guy ever. And it's one thing to dislike or even loath Bush and quite another to do racist rodeo jokes about him.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 08:44 pm
@mysteryman,
If you consider the Obama clown mask non racist I have to back away from you. I didn't think of you as a racist, but you are giving me very little wriggle room.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 08:59 pm
@edgarblythe,
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Go to this website, scroll down and look at the pictures.
Then tell me where the Democrat outrage was then.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:01 pm
@mysteryman,
so...

since some democrats did something out of bounds, anything the republicans do is OK?

that IS your defense here, yes?

or only if they are rodeo clowns...
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:13 pm
But just to be sure I know the rules, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong...

1. If it makes fun of any member of a minority, for any reason, its racist.
2. If even 1 person thinks its racist, then it is
3. These rules do not apply if a white person is the butt of the joke.
4. Only Republicans or conservatives can be racist, there are no liberal or Democrats that are racist.


So are those the rules now?
I don't want to make the mistake of calling a black comedian a racist when he or she makes fun of white people.

mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:17 pm
@Rockhead,
Neither one.
I am simply saying that when someone looks for a reason to get offended, they usually find it.
And in this case, people are looking for a reason.
I refuse to play that game.

When something is truly racist, I will speak out,
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:19 pm
@mysteryman,
People who did that were a tiny minority. Anyone who threatens a president ought to spend substantial time in jail. The Republican bigots are a substantial part of the party.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:20 pm
@mysteryman,
Quote:

When something is truly racist, I will speak out,


Do you consider Steve King a racist?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:21 pm
@mysteryman,
and people wonder why there is racial tension in Kentucky...
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:22 pm
@mysteryman,
You are the one twisting it all to your own logic. It's as though you let your emotions keep you from absorbing the statements of those you disagree with.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:23 pm
@maxdancona,
If you mean the congressman from Iowa, the one that so vehemently opposes any type of immigration reform, than based on what little I know of him I would say yes.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:25 pm
@Rockhead,
There is very little racial tension in this part of KY, and its extremely racist of you to suggest there is.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:27 pm
@mysteryman,
you have proven to be unable to see racism.

I no longer trust your opinions on the matter...
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:32 pm
@edgarblythe,
I do not deny that racism exists, to do so would ignore all the evidence.
However, I do not believe that it is so pervasive that every action or every joke must be considered racist.
I also do not believe that the Republican party is the sole owner of every bigot in this country.

I know racism exists, but I refuse to play the game of blaming one party for it or of accusing everything of being racist.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 09:33 pm
@Rockhead,
I do see it, I just don't see it everywhere, like so many of you do, apparently.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 14 Aug, 2013 12:33 am
@gungasnake,
Oh, so members of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups are Democrats?! You so funny! Laughing Laughing Laughing

By the way, gungasnake (and any other interested party), I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. So, it's not like I have a vested interest in the Democratic Party. But with all due respect to you, your assertion is patently ridiculous.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 14 Aug, 2013 01:24 am
@mysteryman,
You fail to understand the fact that "Democrat" and "Republican" are just labels that may have little meaning. What you need to do is to look at political ideology (in this case, liberalism and conservatism) and learn what the record is of each ideological movement.

You also seem to be ignoring the fact that there has been a significant change in both political parties in the last 40 years. In the 1960s, both parties had a left wing and a right wing. In other words, there were conservatives and liberals in both parties. By the time Nixon was elected President, both parties had begun to undergo a polarization in which the Democrats lost most of their conservatives and the Republicans lost most of their liberals. Today both parties consist of only one "wing."

The record of political conservatism with regard to Jim Crow, under which I grew up, is absolutely pathetic! Just about all leading conservatives defended racial discrimination against black Americans! William Buckley, for example, along with all the other leading conservatives, condemned the landmark Supreme Court ruling Brown vs. Board of Education. (Incidentally, Brown was a case of busing for the purpose of maintaining segregation in the public schools. Buckley and all the other conservatives had no problem with this. But during the 1970s they opposed busing to bring about integration in the schools. What hypocrisy!) At the same time, conservatives relentlessly attacked the civil rights movement. They hated Martin Luther King, Jr.! Ronald Reagan had a fine civil rights record: He opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act in 1965, the first renewal of the Voting Rights Act in 1970, and the second renewal in 1975. I'm a white guy; but if I had hated blacks, I would have loved Reagan! I could go on and on and on, pointing out the shameful record of political conservatism on the issue of civil rights.

There were Republicans during the 1960s who supported civil rights. But most of them were moderate to liberal -- the so-called Rockefeller Republicans, who were despised by the William Buckley, Barry Goldwater, Phylis Schafly conservatives. The white Southern so-called Democrats were conservatives. The leadership of the Republican Party and individuals such as Lee Atwater invited the unrepentant segregationists into the Republican Party. (Incidentally, when David Duke was elected to the Louisiana state legislature, that beacon of morality named Newt Gingrich publicly declared that Duke would be welcomed into the Republican Party after a few years just as long as he watched what he said. Good public relations, no doubt. Rolling Eyes ) My wife, who is now in her early sixties, had been a Republican ever since she was a teenager. But she left her party (to become an independent, not a Democrat) because she was sick and tired of all the unrepentant one-time segregationists into her party. There are even white Republicans today who call Lincoln ( the founder of their party) a Marxist or say that he deserved to be assassinated!

Oh, and lately . . . guess what. The Supreme Court Justices who voted to rip the guts out of the Voting Rights Act are all conservative Republicans. There's nothing noble about it. It's all part of the minority voter suppression drive by which the Republicans hope will ensure their power until Doomsday.

As I've already said before, I'm not a Democrat, either. I'm not able to support them because of their stances on two major issues which I don't care to discuss because most people apparently are unable to maintain any level of civility in an online forum. I've lost my temper a few times myself. For me to support either party, I would have to violate my conscience.

So, I had resolved to stay away from any controversial political or religious issue; but I couldn't resist commenting on this garbage. I get fed up with OPs such as this one (entitled "The Democratic Party's Long and Shameful History of Bigotry") which are nothing less than exercises in intellectual dishonesty that is so blatant that even Herr Goebbels would be scandalized!

By the way, Rush Limbaugh recently claimed that the 1964 Civil Rights Act never would have passed without the support of the conservative Republican Senators. A COMPLETE DAMNABLE LIE! Almost all of the Republican Senators who voted for the Civil Rights Act in 1964 were Rockefeller Republican -- who, as I said before, were DESPISED by the conservatives in their party. Limbaugh is too much of a coward to admit this fact. But he hopes the gullible will swallow his lies, and I fear he may be right in that respect. In the meantime, this intellectual dishonesty, this Orwellian rewrite of history (make that outright falsification) is the most blatant I've ever seen in the politics of this country since I became interested in national politics in 1969. Goebbels would, indeed, be quite impressed by American's own use of the Big Lie technique.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 14 Aug, 2013 02:46 am
@mysteryman,
Again, mysteryman, the 1964 Civil Rights Act was opposed by CONSERVATIVES in both parties. Please get your facts straight.
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