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EU's Hostile Fixation on Israeli Settlements

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 02:57 pm
@Advocate,
You keep repeating that same refrain without any considerations for the Palestinians whose lands and property are being stolen, and with no legal rights.

Here's an English lesson for you to memorize the word "apartheid" and its meaning.

Quote:
a·part·heid (-pärtht, -ht)
n.
1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.
2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.


This is Bethlehem, where the Palestinians live.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/imposter222/P1010055-2.jpg

Nobody in their right mind would say that the Palestinians have equality with the Jews in Israel.

That's not only segregation at its worst, it looks more like a prison that limits their movement from one place to another.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:06 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Moreover, were Israel an apartheid state, it would not live in absolute peace and equality with its Pal citizens of Israel.
You should really read what Nadia Hilou, the first Israeli-Arab women to go to university in Tel Aviv and the first Arab-Israeli as a Knesset member of one of the Israeli parties!

From the above quotedt source (page 10):
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Equality now
[...]I have fought for the equality for Israeli-Arabs.
I am quite clear that the biggest challenge facing the state of Israel in the moment is the status of minorities. ... we see huge gaps between Jewish-Israelis and the Arab minorities.

The solution has to be a political one. Since Rabin, no government has put the issue of euquality at the heart of its programme. ... ... ...

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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:13 pm
@Advocate,
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Israel is not concerned about the views of the UN and its supporters.


Why not, Advocate? Is it because U.S. Vetoes all U.N. Resolutions on behalf of Israel? Is it because the UN is afraid of going up against the US. There are so many censures against the Zionist nation it's no wonder Israeli cannot stand the UN.
oralloy
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:20 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Israel is not concerned about the views of the UN and its supporters.

Why not, Advocate? Is it because U.S. Vetoes all U.N. Resolutions on behalf of Israel? Is it because the UN is afraid of going up against the US. There are so many censures against the Zionist nation it's no wonder Israeli cannot stand the UN.

It's because the UN's acts against Israel are so fundamentally unjust that the UN has zero credibility.
JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:21 pm
@Advocate,
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Israel is not an aprtheid state.


This is the same level of delusion that goes on with respect to those who deny that the US is the leading terrorist group/nation in the world, Advocate. It's astounding, it's phantasmagorical that you can advance something so ludicrous and further, that you keep sticking to such a ludicrous notion.

As long as the US keeps buying the fix for Israel's inhumane position by supporting dictators which support this it'll never get resolved.

It should make you ashamed that both the US and Israel play such dirty politics with the lives of so many innocents just to keep their cherished position of being able to steal from others.
JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:37 pm
@oralloy,
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It's because the UN's acts against Israel are so fundamentally unjust that the UN has zero credibility.


Ho hum, Oralboy lies again. Ho hum, more foot stamping.
izzythepush
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:41 pm
@Advocate,
You trot out your propaganda whilst using your bigoted language. It's no wonder you don't have a problem with apartheid, it's clear what you are.

Israel is an apartheid state by any measure. It's only people like you who refuse to face facts that see things otherwise.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:59 pm
@Advocate,
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It is nonsense that Hamas would accept Israel's right to exist.


I tried to google the link I had posted to you previously, when I first arrived at this board, Advocate; however, I cannot seen to find it now, that is, where Hamas states he would recognize Israel.

But realistcally, Advocate, why on earth would you expect a people who're the victims of Israel's blood lust to rid Palestine of them, want to recognize the cruel and dastardly Zionist nation? If the truth dare be spoken, Israel should be begging the Palestinians pardon since the European Jews, Ethiopian, and Russian Jews are comparatively new to the area while the indigenous people were there when they arrived en masse in 1948. Of course there were Jews in Palestine before 1948, along with Christians and Muslims, all getting along nicely, for centuries. Now Israel has placed the Palestinians in a ghetto, dehumanizing these beautiful people; do you really believe a Palestinian could possibly love an Israeli or have any desire to accede to the wishes of its enemy?

Israel says it's at war with Hamas and the Palestinian people, but it is the Zionist nation who uses sophisticated attack jets and naval vessels to bomb densely crowded refugee camps and slums, sending missiles into an apartment complex building filled with people to get one elusive target. Israel attack a population that has no air force, no air defense, no navy, no mechanized armor, no army and calls it a war. Advocate, it's not a war on the Palestinians, its MURDER!.

Israels should get on its knees before the Palestinians and beg their forgiveness for all the destruction they have wrought on this people.

They say "the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice."

Things change.....maybe not immediately, but I really don't see a happy future for Israel unless it drastically changes its attitude towards the Palestinian people whom they consider a lower order of primate.
Advocate
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 03:59 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You trot out your propaganda whilst using your bigoted language. It's no wonder you don't have a problem with apartheid, it's clear what you are.

Israel is an apartheid state by any measure. It's only people like you who refuse to face facts that see things otherwise.


Your unjustified hatred of Israel is palpable. It is not really worth arguing with you. You are basically a one-trick pony when it comes to Israel.
Advocate
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You keep repeating that same refrain without any considerations for the Palestinians whose lands and property are being stolen, and with no legal rights.

Here's an English lesson for you to memorize the word "apartheid" and its meaning.

Quote:
a·part·heid (-pärtht, -ht)
n.
1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.
2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.


This is Bethlehem, where the Palestinians live.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/imposter222/P1010055-2.jpg

Nobody in their right mind would say that the Palestinians have equality with the Jews in Israel.

That's not only segregation at its worst, it looks more like a prison that limits their movement from one place to another.


You are a moving target. First you talk about the mistreatment of non-Israeli arabs, and then it is about the Israeli arabs. The former are treated much like we treat Canadians, and the latter are treated like we treat any American citizen.

Don't link the two when you talk about aparttheid.
JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:08 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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Israel, and the US, is not concerned about the views of the UN and its supporters.


This is hardly a one way street deal, MiT.

Israel/US vetoes all U.N. Resolutions on behalf of the US/Israel.

Is it because the UN is afraid of going up against the US?

No, it's because the US ignores things that point up just what a rogue nation it is, MiT.

There are so many censures against the Zionist nation/the USA it's no wonder Israel/the USA cannot stand the UN.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:12 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:

izzythepush wrote:
Your unjustified hatred of Israel is palpable. It is not really worth arguing with you. You are basically a one-trick pony when it comes to Israel.


Advocate, your intense bias gets in the way of your seeing facts; unfortunately, I believe you will go to your grave holding the same views, that Israel is pure, democratic with justice for everyone. Of course Israeli policies resemble those of the former apartheid country, SA. (This is why US campuses are poised for divestment from Israel....the bought US congress will not permit us the freedom to do this). Palestinian refugees are not allowed into Israel and some still hold the keys to the homes they were chased from in 1948.

cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:17 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
That's only if their home is still standing. Evil or Very Mad
izzythepush
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:26 pm
@Advocate,
You refuse to see facts, even when they're pointed out to you. You know you're bullshitting but you do it anyway.
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JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:29 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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(This is why US campuses are poised for divestment from Israel....the bought US congress will not permit us the freedom to do this).


Now there's academic freedom for you. Welcome to Naziland!
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JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:31 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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Advocate, your intense bias gets in the way of your seeing facts;


There ya go again with the finger pointing. There aren't many things that USians can finger point about without illustrating their usual grand hypocrisy.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

That's only if their home is still standing.


Ah yes! I do recall the IDF bulldozing many Palestinian homes; there was word some people who didn't get out fast enough were squashed. We know for a fact that an American freedom fighter, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of a tank to keep it from bulldozing a Pal home and got run over for her courage.

No wonder the International Community is beginning to put its foot down on the rogue nation, Israel.
JTT
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 04:56 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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there was word some people who didn't get out fast enough were squashed. We know for a fact that an American freedom fighter, Rachel Corrie,


"some people" - "American freedom fighter"

You folks are really somethin' else. Ya just can't stop with the propaganda. MiT, are you somehow connected to academia or are you just a secretary?

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No wonder the International Community is beginning to put its foot down on the rogue nation, Israel.


You forgot to mention the little rogue nation's BIG rogue nation sponsor.
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Advocate
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 07:46 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:

That's only if their home is still standing.


Ah yes! I do recall the IDF bulldozing many Palestinian homes; there was word some people who didn't get out fast enough were squashed. We know for a fact that an American freedom fighter, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of a tank to keep it from bulldozing a Pal home and got run over for her courage.

No wonder the International Community is beginning to put its foot down on the rogue nation, Israel.


Your comment about Corrie is a great example of your incessant lying about Israel. She was not standing in front of a tank. She was standing unseen behind a wall that an Israeli bulldozer, not a tank, pushed over her.

Had the driver seen her, she would have been arrested and removed from the scene.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 26 Jul, 2013 07:51 pm
@Advocate,
So, standing behind a wall is a crime? For most people, the driver of the bulldozer is the criminal for killing an innocent person. Destruction of private property is a crime in most countries.

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