Snowdon is a dummy

Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Abolish The NSA And Give Snowden A Parade

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Well, you know it's illegal to lie to Congress, but everyone lies to Congress. As soon as they raise their right hand, watch out! Clapper should be held responsible, but he won't be, because that's the condition we're in right now. In a just world, Snowden, we'd be having ticker tape parades for him. But that's not what's going to happen.

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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130819/01445524226/rep-dennis-kucinich-abolish-nsa-give-snowden-parade.shtml

It merely is a request for people taking a particular position to put more thought into that position.

Frank Apisa wrote:

That comment from David Davis fails logic! It doesn't say anything of the sort...and does not even infer that.

I'd quoted him in (nearly) full length above earlier - you might have missed that.

Frank Apisa wrote:

That comment from David Davis fails logic! It doesn't say anything of the sort...and does not even infer that.

I'd quoted him in (nearly) full length above earlier - you might have missed that.

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Miranda was serving as a human passenger pigeon, shuttling encrypted files on USB drives between filmmaker Laura Poitras and Greenwald because, as the whole world now knows, the Internet is fully bugged by the US and UK governments. So the UK, using an anti-terrorism statute, arrested Miranda on arrival at Heathrow, interrogated him for 9 hours, threatened to arrest him, and took his stuff. The war on whistleblowers has now escalated to disrupting journalists’ communications.

In light of Rusbridger’s disclosures, it’s even clearer that the detention of Miranda is part of an attack on American journalists authorized at the highest levels of the British government, and it’s an attack that is at the very least implicitly backed by the Obama administration.
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Frank Apisa wrote:

It merely is a request for people taking a particular position to put more thought into that position.

I've put a great deal of thought into my particular position, Frank. I've lived my nearly 60-year life around it. We are a constitutional republic with the rule of law that has been tragically, imo, usurped into a secret society of secret laws, secret courts, secret oversight (which has been clearly shown to be no oversight at all), at incredible cost to the tax-payer both in terms of dollars, freedoms lost and any sense of privacy.

I no longer email friends who live abroad. They no longer email me either. Not because we have anything to hide, but sharing stories of my life and the lives of my children with friends outside the US were never intended to be shared with some anonymous fuckhead at the NSA.

And, for what? Because it allows you to sleep better at night? Good for you.

I no longer email friends who live abroad. They no longer email me either. Not because we have anything to hide, but sharing stories of my life and the lives of my children with friends outside the US were never intended to be shared with some anonymous fuckhead at the NSA.

I email friends from abroad often...and I truly do not give a damn if the messages are intercepted as part of a governmental plan to keep the country safer.

In light of Rusbridger’s disclosures, it’s even clearer that the detention of Miranda is part of an attack on American journalists authorized at the highest levels of the British government, and it’s an attack that is at the very least implicitly backed by the Obama administration.

We have the spectacle of communications between two American journalists-in-exile—reduced to passing information via courier because their government is spying on everything they do online—busted up by the US’s top ally, apparently with no protest from the Obama administration, which was given a heads-up.

On top of that, Greenwald’s paper has been threatened by its own government with prior restraint and had its hard drives smashed in its basement to make a (stupid) point.

This is police-state stuff. We need to know the American government’s role in these events—and its stance on them—sooner rather than later.

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I email friends from abroad often...and I truly do not give a damn if the messages are intercepted as part of a governmental plan to keep the country safer.

Feel free to allow them to read all your private mail but until the fourth amendment is repeal those of us that do not care to have them in our business have a right to privacy.

The government when not acting within the framework of the constitution is a far far greater danger to our freedoms and well being then all the terrorists in the world.

and, only those with something to hide care about privacy, right Frank?

horse ****.

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I find this deeply upsetting on many levels, not the least of which is that Groklaw is a needless casualty in a stupid power struggle among weak-minded, power hungry government officials who don't even seem to comprehend what a mess they've created.

I simply disagree...and I hope a majority of Americans disagree also.

So let me get this straight: a blogger thinks that maybe her e-mails might possibly be read by the NSA, so she shuts down her site as a response? Yeah, I'd agree that the blog is a needless casualty.

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I simply disagree...and I hope a majority of Americans disagree also.

It so then the fear of a few terrorists had been used as a means to take away our liberties successfully.