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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 09:39 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Footnote Arnold did his thing for the money and social position that the Brits had offer/promise him and that does not apply to Snowden who actions was clearly motivated by his love of both his country and the constitution.

His actions cost him a nice comfortable life and surely did not result in him being granted a large pot of gold as in Arnold case.


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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 10:07 am
@Frank Apisa,
Ok Laughing Frank are you claiming that Snowden is now better off financially then he would had been if he had just kept his mouth shut and gone on being a very high paid IP guy or for that matter sold his information to Russian or China in secret for millions?

Sorry Frank he throw away a comfortable life to warn the rest of us what our government was doing in secret as far as massive spying is concern.

He is truly a modern Reeve.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 10:26 am
@BillRM,
Footnote, Savile did his thing because he was a paedophile.

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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 03:22 pm
@BillRM,
Yes Bill. I know all that shyt. What has that got to do With Benedict and Snowden being spies? They both gave secret info to the enemy and moved on.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 04:34 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
He is truly a modern Reeve.


Christopher Reeve?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2015 05:30 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
They both gave secret info to the enemy


In the case of Snowden the government is defining enemies as the American people and the constitution.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2015 10:17 pm
@BillRM,
No answer huh?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 01:57 am
The personal data of European Internet users are not adequately protected in the USA from accessing by the authorities, the EU-court just now ruled. ... ... ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 02:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The European Court of Justice has said an agreement that gave US spy chiefs access to the online data of millions of citizens is invalid.

Austrian privacy campaigner Max Schrems has challenged the Safe Harbour treaty in his fight to expose what information Facebook gave to American intelligence agencies.

The court found that legislation allowing the authorities access to the content of electronic communications compromised the fundamental right to respect for private life.
(from 'Breaking News' in various media)

Since I have Schrems' campaign, I even might get a compensation Very Happy [No, not really.]
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 03:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
This rulingmeans that companies can no longer move data about their European customers to the United States.

The European Court of Justice said that national data protection regulators also had the right to review how these companies share data between regions. The national regulators could limit such data-sharing activities if they believed their citizens’ data could be used in ways not guaranteed under European law, the court said.

American data protection rules do not offer the same protections to individuals that are guaranteed in Europe.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 04:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

This rulingmeans that companies can no longer move data about their European customers to the United States.

The European Court of Justice said that national data protection regulators also had the right to review how these companies share data between regions. The national regulators could limit such data-sharing activities if they believed their citizens’ data could be used in ways not guaranteed under European law, the court said.

American data protection rules do not offer the same protections to individuals that are guaranteed in Europe.


Guaranteed!!!!!??
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 04:41 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Guaranteed!!!!!??
Otherwise, we wouldn't have got this ruling.
Quote:
The Court stresses in this regard the right, guaranteed by the Charter [Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union and the directive], to the protection of personal data and the task with which the national supervisory authorities are entrusted under the Charter.
Source: see above
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 05:28 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Guaranteed!!!!!??

Quote:
Monique Goyens, director general of the European Consumer Organisation said: “In essence, if Facebook, Google et al. wish to continue sending Europeans’ personal data over the Atlantic they will just have to guarantee an adequate level of protection in line with EU rules.”
Source: What is 'safe harbour' and why did the EUCJ just declare it invalid?
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revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 06:45 am
Did Snowden give all information to American Journalist and free society generally?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 08:56 am
@revelette2,
I don't mind who got it - I do know that it was published.
And if it hadn't been published, we (all!) wouldn't know quite a few details.
Thus, we (Europeans) got this ruling. ("Triumph for Snowden - Disgrace for Merkel" as spiegelonline titled (Spiegel [and spiegelonline] being among those papers, publishing Snowden's documents].)
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 09:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Guaranteed!!!!!??
Otherwise, we wouldn't have got this ruling.
Quote:
The Court stresses in this regard the right, guaranteed by the Charter [Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union and the directive], to the protection of personal data and the task with which the national supervisory authorities are entrusted under the Charter.
Source: see above


Until EVERYONE finally wakes up and realizes it is IMPOSSIBLE to guarantee anything remotely like individual privacy...

...we will continue to promote the illusion that it can be.

The illusion that it can be...is MORE DANGEROUS...than the fact that nobody can guarantee individual privacy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 09:25 am
@Frank Apisa,
Your opinion is well-known, but doesn't change neither our laws nor the EU-Charter nor the ruling of the EU's highest court (and that of our Federal Constitutional Court).
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 10:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Your opinion is well-known, but doesn't change neither our laws nor the EU-Charter nor the ruling of the EU's highest court (and that of our Federal Constitutional Court).


Okay, Walter.

You're privacy is guaranteed!
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 11:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
You're privacy is guaranteed!
Not only mine, but that of all other 510 million other EU-citizens as well. And from today onwards with the seal of our highest court.

Facebook wrote today that legal rulings should follow the actual situation - a similar argumentation as yours: not the law has to be followed ...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2015 11:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
You're privacy is guaranteed!
Not only mine, but that of all other 510 million other EU-citizens as well.


Yup.

So Angela Merkel can rest easy.

Ain't gonna be no invasion of her privacy either.

Right?

Nobody over there has anything to worry about on that account.

ASIDE: You folk in Europe deal with floods often. You ought to pass laws against them also...so they will no longer be a bother.
 

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