Snowdon is a dummy

There had been zero evidence that the massive collection of date had been of any help at all and that go before Snowden and after Snowden released information.

Looks to me that NSA collects everything because it can not figure out what is important, and then it gets buried in data.

The way I have heard it the NSA and their bosses were sure that if they collected everything they would be able to put the best computers and the best brains together to figure out what to do with it. However, they have so far almost completely failed.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/07/the-nsas-hugely-expensive-utah-data-center-has-major-electrical-problems-and-basically-isnt-working/

Well, this is good news for those with privacy concerns about the NSA and terrible news for those concerned about government spending. The National Security Agency’s new billion-dollar-plus data center in Bluffdale, Utah was supposed to go online in September, but the Wall Street Journal’s Siobhan Gorman reports that it has major electrical problems and that the facility known as “the country’s biggest spy center” is presently nearly unusable:

Chronic electrical surges at the massive new data-storage facility central to the National Security Agency’s spying operation have destroyed hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of machinery and delayed the center’s opening for a year, according to project documents and current and former officials.

There have been 10 meltdowns in the past 13 months that have prevented the NSA from using computers at its new Utah data-storage center, slated to be the spy agency’s largest, according to project documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Glenn Greenwald isn’t the only one dropping explosive material on the NSA. According to the Wall Street Journal, the data center’s electrical problems include “arc failures,” a.k.a. “a flash of lightning inside a 2-foot box,” which results in fiery explosions, melted metal and circuit failure. More terrifying, this has happened ten times, most recently on September 25, reports the WSJ, which reviewed project documents and reports and talked to contractors involved. The report blames the NSA “fast tracking” the Utah project and thus bypassing “regular quality controls in design and construction.” Whoops.

Worse, it sounds from the WSJ’s reporting as if the contractors — architectural firm KlingStubbins which designed the electrical system, along with construction companies Balfour Beatty Construction, DPR Construction and Big-D Construction Corp — are still scrambling to figure out what’s causing the problems. The Army Corps of Engineers sent its “Tiger Team” to sort things out this summer but they were unable to pinpoint exactly what’s wrong.

“The problem, and we all know it, is that they put the appliances too close together,” a person familar with the database construction told FORBES, describing the arcs as creating “kill zones.” “They used wiring that’s not adequate to the task. We all talked about the fact that it wasn’t going to work.”

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There had been zero evidence that the massive collection of date had been of any help at all and that go before Snowden and after Snowden released information.

In fact all known facts point to the fact that such programs as far as terrorism is concern is a huge waste of resources.

For instance, say they discover a suspect phone number that they never knew about before. With the phone metadata program, they were able to check and see what activity that phone number had been involved with over the past five years.

Several times they were able to rule out suspicious phone numbers as innocent because of the number's past activity. They then didn't need to waste resources closely monitoring that number.

Now however, when they find a new phone number that seems suspicious, they will no longer have any way of knowing the number's past history.

That is incorrect. They found it incredibly useful to be able to investigate the past history of suspicious phone numbers when they came across them.

Right before Snowden the terrorists was not as bright as drug dealers and did not used throw away cell phones for a few times before throwing them away.

Whatever.

I sure hope the guy gets a fair trial!

Not possible for this government with its current laws to offer a fair trial.

Therefor the only fair course is no trial.

An award would be a nice touch.

They found Usama bin Ladn because a cell phone that they were watching got turned on right outside his building.

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Whatever.

I sure hope the guy gets a fair trial!

Not possible for this government with its current laws to offer a fair trial. Therefor the only fair course is no trial.

An award would be a nice touch.

if Snowden returns to the US...he will undoubtedly get one.

LOL a fair trial with jury nullification seem about right. At least about right if justice will end up prevailing.

have government agents throw him down an elevator shaft. Problem solved.

If a corrupt jury refuses to convict him, have government agents throw him down an elevator shaft. Problem solved

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if Snowden returns to the US...he will undoubtedly get one.

LOL a fair trial with jury nullification seem about right. At least about right if justice will end up prevailing.

As I said, Bill...

...you do not want him to get a fair trial!

I think eventually he will get one though.