Snowdon is a dummy

We do uphold our Constitution and our treaties.

No way the Fourth Amendment is violated. The database is only accessed with probable cause and with a warrant from a judge.

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Now, maybe I was making too much of your silence on the other thread, but you still haven't answered my question. If you believe the above then shouldn't Robert Seldon Lady be deported to Italy for breaking Italian law the same way that Snowden should be deported to America.

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The story of how a Milan CIA station chief became a fugitive, now caught in Panama
By Max Fisher

When Robert Seldon Lady first arrived in Milan, Italy’s fashion and business hub, he was officially listed as an employee of the U.S. State Department with the title of deputy consul. In fact, he was the head of the CIA’s Milan station. That was 2000. Within a few years, Lady would become an international fugitive on the run from Italian police; he would go from a highly respected CIA officer to, for many in Europe, a symbol of everything that was wrong with the United States’ war on terror and a means to publicly pressure the Bush administration.
On Thursday, Lady was detained in Panama, possibly to answer for the Italian extradition charges that have stood against him for years. The story of Lady’s journey over the past decade is controversial, disputed and full of holes. But it is a fascinating episode from a complicated period in U.S. foreign policy – one that, as his recent detention reminds us, isn’t so long ago as we might think.
Two good retellings of Lady’s downfall and the incident that so angered Italian officials are a well-reviewed 2010 book A Kidnapping in Milan: The CIA on Trial,” by journalist Steve Hendricks, and Matthew Cole’s exhaustive 2007 Esquire story. I’ve drawn from them both here.
After Sept. 11, 2001, CIA stations across much of Europe ramped up efforts to find and neutralize possible terrorist threats; several of the al-Qaeda operatives involved in the 2001 hijackings had originally operated out of Hamburg. Lady’s Milan station, working with Italian counterterrorism officials, dismantled three cells in northern Italy in just two years, according to Cole.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/18/the-story-of-how-a-milan-cia-station-chief-became-a-fugitive-now-caught-in-panama/

The next day, Parks was tried on charges of disorderly conduct and violating a local ordinance. The trial lasted 30 minutes. After being found guilty and fined $10, plus $4 in court costs

Noted legislative achievements during this phase of the Civil Rights Movement were passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that banned discrimination based on "race, color, religion, or national origin" in employment practices and public accommodations; the Voting Rights Act of 1965, that restored and protected voting rights; the Immigration and Nationality Services Act of 1965, that dramatically opened entry to the U.S. to immigrants other than traditional European groups; and the Fair Housing Act of 1968, that banned discrimination in the sale or rental of housing. African Americans re-entered politics in the South, and across the country young people were inspired to action.

Rosa Parks did not break the law and cowardly run away to keep from facing those she defied.

JPB wrote:

Clapper outright lied to Congress when asked a specific point-blank question.

I've heard this claimed a lot, but I haven't heard the details of the alleged lie, and frankly I'm skeptical.

What is the lie he is supposed to have told?

Clapper was asked during a hearing in March by Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, if the NSA gathered “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”

At first, Clapper answered definitively: “No.”

Pressed by Wyden, Clapper changed his answer. “Not wittingly,” he said. “There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.”

If there was a risk that they would have tortured her, kept her in jail for years on end without a trial, or sent her to Gitmo or an equivalent torture camp, maybe she would have fled...

The real coward in this story is so evidently Obama, who protects a police state which tortures people day in and day out in Gitmo and elsewhere. He's a joke.

Here it is along with his admission and apology for that lie.

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Clapper was asked during a hearing in March by Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, if the NSA gathered “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”

At first, Clapper answered definitively: “No.”

Pressed by Wyden, Clapper changed his answer. “Not wittingly,” he said. “There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.”

Hmmm. What were they doing asking him in public about a top secret program?

There has never been any torture at Guantanamo, ...

This report is a product of our united efforts. This report uniquely recounts the experiences of prisoners inside Guantánamo Bay prison. Other reports, for the most part, rely on the statements of released prisoners who were willing to tell their stories. Appearing in this report are the accounts of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment drawn directly from habeas counsels’ unclassified notes. Prisoner statements were made to counsel during in-person interviews conducted at Guantánamo beginning in the fall of 2004.

Your facts in one half-sentence versus the details in the 577-page report ...