Snowdon is a dummy

@Walter Hinteler,

I've just read through some comments in the Swiss media: during the time, Snowden worked for the CIA in Geneva, he wrote that Switzerland was inhabited by "postcard racists". (That quote was published by arstechnica.com) That's the most negative critic. The headline of "Der Tagesanzeiger" (Zürich newspaper) was: "Single ticket Moscow-Bern, non-stop"

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

So you think that is the only solution the United States could up with???? To shoot it down?

No. They could enforce some kind of pressure on Switzerland. (I would prefer the solution someone wrote in a letter-to-the-editor in a Geneva paper: use a Red Cross plane Very Happy

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
So you think that is the only solution the United States could up with???? To shoot it down?

No. They could enforce some kind of pressure on Switzerland. (I would prefer the solution someone wrote in a letter-to-the-editor in a Geneva paper: use a Red Cross plane )

Some would prefer Air Malaysia.

But whatever is chosen...do not think that Snowden takes the trip with no trouble.

If he does end up in Switzerland, however...he lives fine with a good government and freedom and privacy...lots of privacy.

Okay with me for him to live there. His family can visit him...or move there with him.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Let him live in Switzerland, it would be interesting to see if Russia lets him even if the US don't manage to pressure Switzerland in some way. Besides, I thought Snowden gave all of his documents to Glen Greenwald and Laura Poitras when they were in Hong Kong before going to Russia. Shouldn't Switzerland be asking them for the information they seek?

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Besides, I thought Snowden gave all of his documents to Glen Greenwald and Laura Poitras when they were in Hong Kong before going to Russia. Shouldn't Switzerland be asking them for the information they seek?

I do think that he still is the owner - he didn't sell them nor give them away as a present to all I know.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Some would prefer Air Malaysia.

Now you're down with your cheap jokes.

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@Walter Hinteler,

So you think Glen Greenwald is just going to hand them back to him?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Some would prefer Air Malaysia.

Now you're down with your cheap jokes.

That wasn't cheap, Walter...

...it was free.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter, the man has turned his brain into a slave, rather than an archive. He forces it to demonize Snowden, for what exactly you may ask? It's quite simple - fear. What drew the fear? Frank having to see his own country's secrets and lies exposed to the whole world. Hence why he wrote "I do not believe the government has done anything illegal" - when it has a thousand times already.

Who would say something along the lines of a young girl who doesn't want to see her father as an abusive drunk?

Frank is traumatized and he's taking it out on Snowden.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

So you think Glen Greenwald is just going to hand them back to him?

Are you starting to appreciate the humor in all this, Revelette?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Some would prefer Air Malaysia.

Now you're down with your cheap jokes.

That wasn't cheap, Walter...

...it was free

I don't get jokes related to terrible incidents/accidents with hundreds of dead passengers.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Some would prefer Air Malaysia.

Now you're down with your cheap jokes.

That wasn't cheap, Walter...

...it was free

I don't get jokes related to terrible incidents/accidents with hundreds of dead passengers.

There is a lot you don't get, Walter.

Sounds like something you should take up with the Chaplain.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

So you think Glen Greenwald is just going to hand them back to him?

Why should Greenwald do so? If Snowden tells so, he hands the related over to the Swiss authorities ... similar, like all newspapers get the documents.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

There is a lot you don't get, Walter.

Sounds like something you should take up with the Chaplain.

Thanks for that advice - I do hope, it was free as well.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter, I know Frank is frustrating you, but please if you want to stand for your message, do not get sucked up by his tautology - it's the eternal eye not producing anything and it attacks everyone's eternal eyes that have produced something. Frank is traumatized and envious of you, Walter. Do not let him derail your meaning, because you feel inclined in trying to beat him at his own tautological games - you will never beat him. He already lost, just keep winning. Victim is only half of a victory, Walter! You just went against your own word by not taking these people's lives seriously, by taking Frank seriously and personally - you're losing this way, not to him, but to yourself.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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If Snowden tells so, he hands the related over to the Swiss authorities

So, Glen Greenwald is basically a puppet at Snowden strings? He is not charge of what happens to documents? Greenwald has been making a lot of money off of these documents, I am not sure he would just hand over documents because Snowden says so. After all, legally, Snowden can't do anything about it because neither one should even have it.

One thing I agree with Bill about, if Snowden is charged, Glen Greenwald should be charged also for being in possession of stolen property. Kind of like Pawn brokers or fences and stolen jewelry and what not.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

One thing I agree with Bill about, if Snowden is charged, Glen Greenwald should be charged also for being in possession of stolen property. Kind of like Pawn brokers or fences and stolen jewelry and what not.

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Theft of government material is one of the three charges brought against Snowden, but it would be unheard of for it to be applied to journalists who handled the same material since they are ordinarily protected under the first amendment for “reporting true, newsworthy information”.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/04/us-congressman-mike-rogers-glenn-greenwald-thief-snowden-nsa

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@revelette2,

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Greenwald has been making a lot of money off of these documents,

Another phony accusation... But who is counting them?

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@Frank Apisa,

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I don't get jokes related to terrible incidents/accidents with hundreds of dead passengers.

There is a lot you don't get, Walter.

Do you have some jokes about 9/11, Frank? On this day of remembrance, it would be nice to crack a few...

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@izzythepush,

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but it would be unheard of for it to be applied to journalists who handled the same material since they are ordinarily protected under the first amendment for “reporting true, newsworthy information”.

Where oh where is there a SC ruling that a journalist can break the espionage laws with immunity?

If so then Snowden should have gotten himself a part time journalist job.

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