Snowdon is a dummy

@RABEL222,

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How is that different from government spying? Its OK if big business does it?

Let see there is first of all no reason that the laws should allowed such behaviors by private firms and to the credit of the EU they are cracking down to a far greater extend then the US happen to.

Next companies can not put you on terrorists watch lists or ban you from flying or raid your home with a swat team or..........

Whole difference abilities to cause you harm between private companies and governments.

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@RABEL222,

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He was the one deciding for me you and every citizen in the U S of A what was right and wrong without recourse to anyone else.

An the ones who are legally making those choices now are the same people who have lied to congress, spy on congress and have a program to leak negative personal information to discredit those they do not care for in the same manner as Hoover trying to have MLK kill himself.

The same people who had ban US citizens for no known reasons from flying including flying to return the the US and there is no means for those citizens to get a legal hearing over being ban from the airways.

To sum up I trust Snowden and his judgement and his honor one hell of a lot more then such people as Holder or the heads and the former heads of the intelligence agencies who are known to had lied under oath to both congress and the American people.

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@RABEL222,

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Have you noticed that the longer this site goes on the stranger the new posters are becoming?

LOL. It's happening to the old posters too...

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Face it, we are all have gone past strange some time ago with this in the last few weeks. I am about ready to cry uncle.

To sum up for me as my own personal feeling. I agree with those who have said, even if you think there are abuses and that NSA is a runaway train, Snowden didn't have to do it the way he did it, nor did he have to take so much to prove his point. Bottom line, he broke the law, he knew it when he did it, so if he comes back, he will stand trial for and his fate will decided. Meantime, life goes on.

Just wish there was something else to talk about. Getting boring in A2k.

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@revelette2,

You can't break a law that's been broken already by the law maker, much like you cannot break the cherry of she who has already broken it herself.

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@revelette2,

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Bottom line, he broke the law, he knew it when he did it, so if he comes back, he will stand trial for and his fate will decided. Meantime, life goes on.

Strange is it not that when the heads of the intelligence agencies break the law by lying to congress on videos in front of congressional Committees the law is not the law?

When Federal employees order and or take part into hacking into Congressional computers system the law is not the law?

Let alone doing such charming things as placing malware on innocent people computers so they can used those computers as platforms to hack into other computers IE set up botnets.

The law is not the law now is it and there is no bottom line.

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@One Eyed Mind,

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The issue is not the interviewer - the issue is the rules that govern the interviewer's options.

Why am I jerk for being confident in what I sacrificed my self and my pleasure to research and understand on the level of many great minds who have done exactly the same things I did (sacrifice the social conform)? Just tell me, I'm very curious. I fight for my people, whether they are morons or not. Wars wouldn't exist if this world did not consist of morons - over-population; fat people; hatred; you name it. These things exist because the mass, is indeed, very moronic and ironic within that.

What would you describe yourself as?

Conversation ended. If you decide to be sane again...I'll probably notice.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

Have you noticed that the longer this site goes on the stranger the new posters are becoming?

Yup! We've had more than our fair share lately.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

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Have you noticed that the longer this site goes on the stranger the new posters are becoming?

LOL. It's happening to the old posters too...

Don't be so hard on yourself, Olivier. You're just dizzy from the merry-go-round. You can clear up if you set your mind to it.

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@Frank Apisa,

You're the one who is enforcing laws that have been made and broken already, because you would rather respect words written on paper over the intricacies of our nature.

I am an artist.

You are a conformist.

The conformist is the artist that failed.

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@One Eyed Mind,

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-The same government that uses the oil of other countries, but has not used its own oil yet.- Oil from other countries that costed innocent lives, pointless wars for the poor at heart, for compensatory riches.

The US has used lots of our own oil.

If innocent lives are lost over oil, that is the fault of dictators who try to unjustly control the oil, not the fault of the US for ensuring that oil continues to flow.

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@BillRM,

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Of course burying the information you are looking for in an ocean of information bigger then tens of million or so Libraries of Congress worth of data in Utah is going to be helpful.

Computers filter information quite easily.

Plus, a lot of the data is being stored so that if they later have a suspect, they can then pull the stored information relating to that specific suspect.

You're acting like they are just aimlessly plowing through reams of data. That is not the case.

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but giving up our freedoms is not worth taking a chance on having a few thousand deaths at least in some people opinion.

Nothing that the NSA is doing involves us giving up any of our freedom.

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@Olivier5,

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No, that's not what I'm saying. My balls are so large they wouldn't fit in your big mouth, Frank. Assuming you'd like them in there, which I suspect you would.

Careful Olivier. They'll realize that I'm correct when I call you a sociopath.

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@oralloy,

The U.S does not use its own oil. Its oil comes from places like Canada and third world countries, hence the weapon-exchange for oil throughout the "foreign policy".

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@oralloy,

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Nothing that the NSA is doing involves us giving up any of our freedom.

I bet you would not feel that way if you would find that on going to the airport you could not board an aircraft and have no rights to challenge such a ban or even find out the reasons that some damn government bureaucrat had placed you on this secret list in the first place

A man who no one could find any reasons for such a ban and who have service our nation in the military could not fly back to the US is one of many examples of such lack of freedoms.

A study showed that many people are now fearing to express negative opinions on the NSA on the internet and are only willing to do so in person.

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@One Eyed Mind,

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The U.S does not use its own oil. Its oil comes from places like Canada and third world countries, hence the weapon-exchange for oil throughout the "foreign policy"

Nonsense we of late have been breaking all kind of records on the amount of oil that the US is producing yearly.

The nation is one of the top oil producers in the world.

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@BillRM,

Producing - now I want you to ask yourself how much of it they've used. Go on, Bill.

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@One Eyed Mind,

My lord we are producing an ever increasing percent of our total oil needs even if it not at a 100 percent yet.

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@BillRM,

The only reason why the U.S is the leading oil producer is because they are the last on the list at being an oil user. By oil, I mean their own oil, not foreign oil or neighbor oil.

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I am going to quit posting here. Even the brain dead hero worshipers admit he broke the law. All their arguments for him being a hero are so much bullshyt. He broke the law and dosent have the balls to come back and face the music even though they know he would have the best lawyers in the land. Why dont they want to see him come back. Because they all KNOW he broke the law.

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