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@cicerone imposter,

My MP is a Labour MP. There's a coalition government in charge.

Having said that, it's got as far as a select committee.

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British people are losing confidence in the UK's extradition arrangements with the US and major changes are needed "to restore public faith", MPs have said.

The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee believes it is "easier to extradite a British citizen to the USA than vice versa".

Public concern had been highlighted by recent cases including that of 65-year-old Christopher Tappin, the MPs said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17553860

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

When hackers can get into bank's customer files with their social security and account numbers, it won't be long before hackers can access almost any confidential file in open source memory banks.

That has to do how secure some bank accounts are - I'm doing online banking (and only online banking) since ages, but it has always been quite different to just giving a social security number (I even wouldn't know that) and the account number.

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@Walter Hinteler,

I'm waiting for the litigation(s) to begin whether in the US or Europe.

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@cicerone imposter,

You mean, like google, microsoft et. al. had to do changes and were fined?

Apropos google: do you know why most of Germany still isn't visible on streetview? Google has to pixel-out tenthousands of houses ....

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@Olivier5,

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Well, I object to him doing so for me. I want my elected officials to do that.

Elected? LOL.

So Nixon spying on Dems in Watergate was fine then, since he was elected.

Who killed Kennedy? Surely there's an 'elected official' somewhere keeping that secret.

Assange is not doing anything 'for you'. He just publishes material that come to his attention. Who are you to object to his free speech?

Is objecting to something against the laws of free speech?

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@Frank Apisa,

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MIT...

...you really shouldn't write that kind of stuff. It gets people like JTT much too upset!

It isn't that bald faced lies upset so much, Frank. It's that they disappoint. Here you are, bragging about what a great editorial writer you are, how you were top of your class in English, and then all you seem capable of doing is childish emoticons.

And then MiT congratulates you on your "eloquence". And she's another "farmer academic".

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Bienkowski is suspected of having violated a law against "insulting organs ... of foreign countries."

When it comes to the US that's certainly a strong possibility, albeit a euphemism. Smile

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@Walter Hinteler,

Do you really believe those fines are going to stop all snooping of private information?

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@cicerone imposter,

No. Same is, btw, that some get imprisoned and commit crimes afterwards again.

We didn't abolish our Criminal Code for that reason either.

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@Walter Hinteler,

I understand you have a legal system, but it won't stop the crimes.

Your sacred privacy is an illusion, and an unwarranted fear.

If you die in a car accident tomorrow, there are laws that's supposed to protect you, but you're still dead. How important was your privacy vs the more likelihood that you can get killed? How much control do you really have?

I don't worry about things I cannot control; that's a waste of time and effort depending on what I consider important in my life. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about them.

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@Frank Apisa,

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By the way, Bernie…Assange, in my opinion, wants to be a dictator…to decide what can and cannot be kept secret…to decide what measures are or are not reasonable with regard to threats that occur.

He was not elected dictator. Who the hell is he to make the kinds of decisions for us all that he is making?

You should stick to your little memes, Frank, because when you attempt to actually discuss anything serious, you illustrate that you are little more than a frightened child, without the cute.

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The only reason he has any refuge at all is because countries with a grudge against the US are willing to give him safe harbor for as long as he serves their purposes.

A "grudge"?! You should try to get yourself up to speed on the sordid and evil history of the US in those countries willing to provide sanctuary to a gentleman who has simply exposed, as has already been mentioned, but bears repeating, US war crimes. And he did it like many other journalists have done. And he did it not with slanderous comments but with the US's own information.

How come, in your Apisian quest for the truth, Frank, you have failed to mention the NYT or any of the other media outlets who have published the same?

The only reason that he hasn't already achieved political asylum is because the US has acted, again, like the rogue nation it is and interfered with international aviation.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I understand you have a legal system, but it won't stop the crimes.

Your sacred privacy is an illusion, and an unwarranted fear.

It isn't a fear. It's just that I think, criminals should be prosecuted.
You can't squash crime and criminals, I agree, but I don't think that because of that we should (and could) live without laws and a legal system.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Those who are caught are prosecuted. What more do you want?

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@Walter Hinteler,

I never said we should live without a legal system and laws.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I don't worry about things I cannot control...

Bingo!

Life is getting more complex...and our technology is becoming the stuff of sci-fi. We are living on the bottom cusp of so much change, I guess it can be disconcerting, but the glass-is-half-full take is: We live in interesting times.

I suspect there will come a day in the not too distant future where some of the notions of individual privacy being discussed here will considered "quaint."

There is much, much more to come.

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Your sacred privacy is an illusion...

It is indeed.

This reminds me of the many discussions recently about jobs. The truly advanced technology we posssess and which is increasing exponentially...is making the labor and toil of ordinary humans increasingly valueless. Machines can do the jobs more quickly and more cheaply than using human laborers. The notion of having enough decent paying jobs for everyone who needs and wants one is a thing of the past...if not today, perhaps tomorrow or a tomorrow not far in the future.

The problem we should be dealing with is not "How do we create the decent paying jobs we need?"...because that cannot be done. The problem we should be dealing with it, "How do we distribute our enormous plenty in a way that allows the people who need and want stuff to have it...without them having to earn it via a decent paying job?"

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@cicerone imposter,

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Those who are caught are prosecuted. What more do you want?

Yeah right, CI! You're living in a fantasy world.

You still haven't explained how you got sucked back into the vortex. A child like mind perhaps or a mind so saturated with a lifetime of lies that,

"We Americans are the ultimate innocents. We are forever desperate to believe that this time the government is telling us the truth."

Sydney Schanberg

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

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Your sacred privacy is an illusion...

It is indeed.

Not really.
It is not only part of our constitution but belongs to those articles which are "eternal" = cannot be changed by subsequent legal amendments ( Article 79 paragraph (3) of the Basic Law)

There certainly might come that day, when we get a completely new constitution ...

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@Frank Apisa,

CI: I don't worry about things I cannot control...

Frank: Bingo!

government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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@Frank Apisa,

Kind of like our gun nuts I dont care how many people have to die in order for me to exercise my second amendment right to blow someone away.

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@blatham,

Maybe if we demanded as much judicial protection for whistle blowers as for the federal prosecutors who can spend unlimited funds on convicting someone of political BS.

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