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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 27 Jun, 2014 06:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
.... and after Verizon got the boot, now the German government is considering pulling the plug on US companies that provide hardware for official communication networks. (That was announced today by Dr.Tobias Plate, the head of the criminal prevention department and a spokesperson in the Federal Interior Ministry.)
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JTT
 
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Fri 27 Jun, 2014 07:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Just as it should be, USA companies pay for their perfidious ways.
spendius
 
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Fri 27 Jun, 2014 07:19 am
@JTT,
There is not enough dough JT. Not by a long way.
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 27 Jun, 2014 07:20 am
@spendius,
True dat.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 27 Jun, 2014 07:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Now, Germany's lower house of parliament ("Bundestag") has joined the government in cutting ties with U.S. telecoms firm Verizon Communications Inc , in reaction to the U.S. government spying and allegations firms were handing over data.
JTT
 
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Fri 27 Jun, 2014 08:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Hooray.

How come the German government has never cut ties with the USA over its myriad war crimes and terrorist actions, Walter?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 28 Jun, 2014 02:13 am
NSA spied in 2013 on 89,138 "targets".
A target "has multiple meanings. For example, “target” could be an individual person, a group, or an organization composed of multiple individuals or a foreign power that possesses or is likely to communicate foreign intelligence information that the U.S. government is authorized to acquire by the above-referenced laws." Statistical Transparency Report Regarding Use of National Security Authorities - Annual Statistics for Calendar Year 2013
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sat 28 Jun, 2014 06:14 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Is this the beginning of the end of the age of legal government spying? Trevor Timm asks in the Guardian.

Quote:
As Wheeler noted, "get a warrant" was once just the tagline for noted hippies and privacy geeks. Now it's got a hero: the chief justice of the supreme court.
oralloy
 
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Sat 28 Jun, 2014 07:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

The answer to that question would be "no". There is a big difference between spying and police work.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 28 Jun, 2014 08:11 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
There is a big difference between spying and police work.
Indeed. That's what I've always tried to explain: police is doing police work and spy agencies do the spying.
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JTT
 
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Sat 28 Jun, 2014 08:40 am
@oralloy,
Now you're going on uncle sam's hind end, Oralboy, spewing **** far and wide.

Always with nothing to back your fatuous claims but Oralboy foot stomping.
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kiuku
 
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Sun 29 Jun, 2014 05:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
no such thing.
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 30 Jun, 2014 12:41 am
@kiuku,
wtf?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 30 Jun, 2014 07:00 am
Instead of a no-spy deal, the US has begun a Cyber Dialogue with Germany. In a SPIEGEL interview, John Podesta, a special advisor to President Barack Obama, speaks of the balance between alliances and security and says that changes are being made to NSA espionage practices.

Obama Advisor John Podesta: 'Every Country Has a History of Going Over the Line'
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Mon 30 Jun, 2014 07:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The new director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Michael Rogers, has played down the damage caused by Edward Snowden's revelations in contrast to claims by his predecessor and British counterparts that it was one of the worst breaches in intelligence history.

Rogers said in an interview with the New York Times that some terrorists had made changes in the way they communicate as a result of the revelations focusing on the US spying communications agency, but overall he had concluded the sky was not falling down.

New NSA chief says 'sky not falling down' after Snowden revelations
revelette2
 
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Mon 30 Jun, 2014 07:51 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Well, that is good news isn't it? I'm glad the damage didn't cause the sky to fall down so to speak in his words. I find that reassuring.

Quote:
Rogers said the agency had overheard terrorist groups "specifically referencing data detailed" by Snowden's revelations. "I have seen groups not only talk about making changes, I have seen them make changes," he said. But he added: "You have not heard me as the director say, 'Oh, my God, the sky is falling.' I am trying to be very specific and very measured in my characterisations."

He said that one of the biggest changes was that the NSA had taken steps to try to ensure that never again could a single individual accumulate so much documentation and walk away with it as Snowden had done. He added, though, that there was no such thing as total security.

"Am I ever going to sit here and say as the director that with 100% certainty no one can compromise our systems from the inside?" he asked. "Nope. Because I don't believe that in the long run."

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 1 Jul, 2014 03:19 am
(Internet) Privacy - something Franks likes to talk about ...

The Federal Court of Justice of Germany (BGH, the highest court in the system of ordinary jurisdiction) just ruled that the privacy on the internet, as described in the (German) laws, is a higher right than personality rights.
(An user of an internet portal had written wrong 'facts' about a doctor's practice. The physician had requested that the owner of this portal gave details about this anonym user. They denied, lower courts ruled, they had to.)
Germany's highest court now ruled that privacy is a higher right than personality rights (on the internet).

Might be that the Federal Constitutional Court will have the word here ...
(I doubt that the ruling will be changed, since it was clearly about the privacy as written in laws.)
RABEL222
 
  1  
Tue 1 Jul, 2014 01:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
And something you like to twist around to avoid the fact that there is no privacy from corporations, governments, or just about any entity with enough money to avoid laws, even Germanies worldwide privacy laws.
JTT
 
  1  
Tue 1 Jul, 2014 07:53 pm
@RABEL222,
So why blame Germany when it is the criminal USA government that is acting like the totalitarian state it has always been.

And it's ******* sheeple like you, Rabel, letting them do it. Government by the people, what a line of bullshit!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 2 Jul, 2014 01:21 am
@RABEL222,
I know, and agree. We have laws against all and everything ... but since centuries still have criminals
 

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