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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 09:25 am
@InfraBlue,
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This has been brought up early in this thread.


Thanks as I had growth tired of postings the same information over and over on this thread.
revelette2
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 09:27 am
@BillRM,
Well, you could have at least named the law suits. But whatever.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 10:04 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Poor Frank willing to sell the bill of rights with special note of the right to privacy for the claimed needs to deal with a few middle east terrorists.


No, I am not willing to sell the Bill of Rights for whatever that muddled sentence intended to suggest.

In fact, most of my comments have been about the fact that privacy is no more...not because of government intruding, but because everyone is intruding on everyone else. We all carry cameras and recorders.


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Not even understanding that the rest of the world is not going to be buying into the massive spying on them by the US government, even if somehow the American people can be sold that bills of goods/bullshit.


Try to learn how to write an English sentence in a comprehensible fashion...and maybe it would be worthwhile to try to decipher the result. As it is, deciphering your nonsense is almost impossible.


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The net will go dark as a results see the projects already well underway and American firms will be greatly harm as not even Americans will trust Americans firms to not allowed almost random access to their data by the US government.


Yeah, yeah...and the sky is falling. So make sure you have on your tinfoil hat.


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Google is taking another step towards an internet that can stand up to snooping from the NSA.


Good luck with that!



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Today, the company released the source code for a new web browser plugin that encrypts your email messages before they’re sent across the net. Dubbed End-to-End, the plugin aims to prevent interlopers from reading messages even if they gain access to the computer servers that drive your web email service of choice. So, if you’re using Googles’s Gmail, it could thwart the NSA and other snoopers even if they have access to Google’s network.


Yup...and those dummies at the NSA will never be able to figure out a way to defeat these new methods.

So...we are now all safe...and we can put aside all the worrying you are fomenting.

Right?


BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 11:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Yup...and those dummies at the NSA will never be able to figure out a way to defeat these new methods.


If you knew anything at all concerning the art state of the art ciphers you would know that with a billions times the computer power that is currently under the command of the NSA messages can not be broken in the life time of the universe by any known or likely means.

If some undreamed of weaknesses are found however in them that made them a billion times easier to break , it hardly would be enough to do massive code breaking of the information flowing over the net and at the very best would allow target spying not massive spying

But then you Frank do not know a damn thing about the subject just falling back on a almost religious faith in the NSA.

NSA who was not able to protected their own secrets from someone who did not even have a college degree.


Oh in the 1990s the government fear so greatly the spread of such ciphers worldwide that they threaten to prosecuted anyone who allowed that to happen.

It took some very brave men to give the gift of secure communications to the world.
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 11:30 am
@revelette2,
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Well, you could have at least named the law suits. But whatever.


You on the other hand could scan the whole thread and thereby picking up the information that had been posted to it many many many time already.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 11:42 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Yup...and those dummies at the NSA will never be able to figure out a way to defeat these new methods.


If you knew anything at all concerning the art and the technical of state of the art ciphers you would know that with a billions times the computer power that is currently under the command of the NSA messages can not be broken in the life time of the universe by any known or likely means.


Which means everything is now safe...and you can come out from under the tinfoil hat.

Great!

Now if only you could learn to write a coherent sentence...life would be perfect.




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If some undream of weaknesses are found however in them that made them a billion times easier to break , it hardly would be enough to do massive code breaking of the information flowing over the net and at the very best would allow target spying not massive spying


So if you send an email out to someone to say you saw a great movie...the NSA would not be able to find out.

Oh, my gosh. That is just terrific! The sense of relief I feel is beyond measure.




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But then you Frank do not know a damn thing about the subject just falling back on a almost religious faith in NSA.


You always manage to go overboard in your mangled reasoning and writing, Bill. You ought to try to get over that.

Because I am not an expert does not mean that I do not know a damn thing about the subject.

And I, unlike you, CAN write a coherent sentence.



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NSA who was not able to protected their own secrets from someone who did not even have a college degree.


Bad on them.

So...what are you doing today to shore up the sky, Bill?
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 11:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Because I am not an expert does not mean that I do not know a damn thing about the subject.


Oh? So without looking it up you can tell us what is the differences between CBC compare to ECB mode?

Or without looking it up what cipher engine is now being used in AES?

Tell us all what is a hash function and what does it mean to salt a hash function?

So come on Frank show us all in your own words how you had some basic understanding on the subject in question.

BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:01 pm
@BillRM,
Frank, I will even pitch you a very very slow ball by asking what is the only method of encrypting that there is not even in theory a means of breaking?

The method name have three words in it and one of the words is pad.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:02 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Because I am not an expert does not mean that I do not know a damn thing about the subject.


Oh? So without looking it up you can tell us what is the differences between CDC compare to ECB modes?


Would I have to in order to have my statement be correct? (Hint: No!)

You are one of the most illogical posters in A2K, Bill. Why do YOU continue to try to use logic...when you show absolutely no aptitude for doing so?


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Or without looking it up what cipher engine is now being used in AES?


Would I have to in order to have my statement be correct? (Hint: No!)

You are one of the most illogical posters in A2K, Bill. Why do YOU continue to try to use logic...when you show absolutely no aptitude for doing so?


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Tell us all what is a hash function and what does it mean to salt a hash function?


Would I have to in order to have my statement be correct? (Hint: No!)

You are one of the most illogical posters in A2K, Bill. Why do YOU continue to try to use logic...when you show absolutely no aptitude for doing so?



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So come on Frank show us all in your own words how you had some basic understanding on the subject in question.


Okay.

The subject in question is, "Is Edward Snowden a dummy."

In my own words:

Edward Snowden appears to me to be a mixed up young man who has bitten off more than he can chew. But he does not seem to me to be a dummy at all. He certainly shows himself to be a lot smarter than you, Bill...and even though you are unable to write a coherent sentence in English, I do not consider you to be a dummy.

How'd I do, Bill?
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:03 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Frank, I will even pitch you a very very slow ball by asking what is the only method of encrypting that there is not even in theory a means of breaking?

The method name have three words in it and one of the words is pad.


Would I have to in order to have my statement be correct? (Hint: No!)

You are one of the most illogical posters in A2K, Bill. Why do YOU continue to try to use logic...when you show absolutely no aptitude for doing so?
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BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:10 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank you are in the same position of a monkey typing away at random trying to write a novel as far as the chances of your completely uneducated opinions on this subject having any truth or worth to them.

Yet you hold those opinions to be on the same level as experts in the field that I had quoted here more then once.

You are indeed pitiful....................

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKFGAcezNn7l0oDjzWtojr9wQ5AiH-q2N8RzzhbCkq8ttmyylJ9Q
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:14 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Frank you are in the same position of a monkey typing away at random trying to write a novel as far as the chances of your completely uneducated opinions on this subject having any truth to them.


YOU should not be questioning the intelligence of anyone else, Bill. You are not the brightest lamp on the A2K tree...not by a long shot.

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Yet you hold those opinions to be on the same level as experts in the field that I had quoted here more then once.


Where did I say that, Bill?

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You are indeed pitiful....................


You...attempting logic...are the pitiful one, Bill. It is as ludicrous as you teaching English composition. But keep at it. I am enjoying this a lot.
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:21 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Where did I say that, Bill?


More then once my silly friend with special note of when the CEOs of major internet/computers firms stated that the government spying will prove very harmful to the economic.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 12:47 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Where did I say that, Bill?


More then once my silly friend with special note of when the CEOs of major internet/computers firms stated that the government spying will prove very harmful to the economic.


I ask again: Where did I say that, Bill?
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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I ask again: Where did I say that, Bill?


On this thread somewhere in the eight thousands or so postings.

Why does it not surprise me that among your many others charming traits is not standing behind your posts.

Bet you just love the fact that google does a **** poor job of indexing able2know postings................
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:09 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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I ask again: Where did I say that, Bill?


On this thread somewhere in the eight thousands or so postings.

Why does it not surprise me that among your many others charming traits is not standing behind your posts.

Bet you just love the fact that google does a **** poor job of indexing able2know postings................


Since there are so many...just link to one.

You can't do it....because I never said what you allege I said.

But you do not have the ethical wherewithal to simply acknowledge that you were wrong.

I love you for this, Bill.

You are alright in my book!
Wink
BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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But you do not have the ethical wherewithal to simply acknowledge that you were wrong.


Not wrong at all and I am fairly sure that not a few of the thousands of readers of this thread also remember those postings of your and therefore can and will draw their own conclusions over how honest you are.

BillRM
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:47 pm
A mass Email letter from Snowden by way of the ACLU.


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William—

It’s been one year.

Technology has been a liberating force in our lives. It allows us to create and share the experiences that make us human, effortlessly. But in secret, our very own government—one bound by the Constitution and its Bill of Rights—has reverse-engineered something beautiful into a tool of mass surveillance and oppression. The government right now can easily monitor whom you call, whom you associate with, what you read, what you buy, and where you go online and offline, and they do it to all of us, all the time.

Today, our most intimate private records are being indiscriminately seized in secret, without regard for whether we are actually suspected of wrongdoing. When these capabilities fall into the wrong hands, they can destroy the very freedoms that technology should be nurturing, not extinguishing. Surveillance, without regard to the rule of law or our basic human dignity, creates societies that fear free expression and dissent, the very values that make America strong.

In the long, dark shadow cast by the security state, a free society cannot thrive.

That’s why one year ago I brought evidence of these irresponsible activities to the public—to spark the very discussion the U.S. government didn’t want the American people to have. With every revelation, more and more light coursed through a National Security Agency that had grown too comfortable operating in the dark and without public consent. Soon incredible things began occurring that would have been unimaginable years ago. A federal judge in open court called an NSA mass surveillance program likely unconstitutional and “almost Orwellian.” Congress and President Obama have called for an end to the dragnet collection of the intimate details of our lives. Today legislation to begin rolling back the surveillance state is moving in Congress after more than a decade of impasse.

I am humbled by our collective successes so far. When the Guardian and The Washington Post began reporting on the NSA’s project to make privacy a thing of the past, I worried the risks I took to get the public the information it deserved would be met with collective indifference.

One year later, I realize that my fears were unwarranted.

Americans, like you, still believe the Constitution is the highest law of the land, which cannot be violated in secret in the name of a false security. Some say I’m a man without a country, but that’s not true. America has always been an ideal, and though I’m far away, I’ve never felt as connected to it as I do now, watching the necessary debate unfold as I hoped it would. America, after all, is always at our fingertips; that is the power of the Internet.

But now it’s time to keep the momentum for serious reform going so the conversation does not die prematurely.

Only then will we get the legislative reform that truly reins in the NSA and puts the government back in its constitutional place. Only then will we get the secure technologies we need to communicate without fear that silently in the background, our very own government is collecting, collating, and crunching the data that allows unelected bureaucrats to intrude into our most private spaces, analyzing our hopes and fears. Until then, every American who jealously guards their rights must do their best to engage in digital self-defense and proactively protect their electronic devices and communications. Every step we can take to secure ourselves from a government that no longer respects our privacy is a patriotic act.

We’ve come a long way, but there’s more to be done.


Edward J. Snowden, American

P.S. Check out and share the ACLU’s new video about the last year in the surveillance debate, “They knew our secrets. One year later, we know theirs.”
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:47 pm
Former vice-president argues whistleblower exposed 'violations of US constitution far more serious than crimes he committed'
Edward Snowden's NSA leaks 'an important service', says Al Gore
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 10 Jun, 2014 01:52 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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But you do not have the ethical wherewithal to simply acknowledge that you were wrong.


Not wrong at all and I am fairly sure that not a few of the thousands of readers of this thread also remember those postings of your and therefore can and will draw their own conclusions over how honest you are.




I NEVER SAID WHAT YOU CLAIM I SAID.

EVER!

YOU ARE WRONG...AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ETHICAL WHEREWITHAL TO CONCEDE THAT YOU ARE WRONG.
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