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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 17 Mar, 2014 06:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

USA and the UK branded an 'Enemy of the Internet' for the first time by Reporters Without Borders
Quote:
For the first time the UK has been included on Reporters Without Borders’ ‘Enemies of the Internet’, an annual list produced by the press watchdog to draw attention to countries disrupting freedom of information through censorship and surveillance.

The USA also made the list for the first time, alongside stalwarts including North Korea, China, and Iran.



Do YOU consider the UK and USA to be "Enemies of the Internet", Walter?

How about Germany?

What countries do YOU consider not to be "enemies of the Internet?"
JPB
 
  3  
Mon 17 Mar, 2014 06:58 am
Excellent read

http://billmoyers.com/2014/03/11/our-chat-with-edward-snowdens-legal-counsel/
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 17 Mar, 2014 07:31 am
@Frank Apisa,
The report says that the UK is "worse than the U.S", and outlines various "widespread surveillance practices" run by GCHQ as part of its project "Mastering the Internet".

I don't think that the USA and/or the UK are enemies of the internet. Actually, they like it because it makes surveillance of citizens so easy.

Germany is an enemy of the internet. Besides all the various regulations, it's too expensive and too slow.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 17 Mar, 2014 12:02 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Guardian editor receives European Press award for Edward Snowden story

Quote:
Alan Rusbridger, the editor in chief of the Guardian, has been honoured at the European Press awards for leading the team which masterminded a series of remarkable disclosures from the files leaked by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The Guardian was given "The Special Award" by judges at the European Press Prize – Europe's equivalent of the Pulitzers – at a ceremony in London which brought together leading journalists, editors and commentators from across the continent.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 07:34 am
According to a spiegel-online report, as a reaction to the NSA-spying-affair and the Snowden documents, German agencies (domestic intelligence agencies as well as police) are now investigating the spying activities of about 200 US-companies, which are contractors for US-forces in Germany.

That could be quite expensive for those companies (and/or the US-forces), since these firms neither pay customs nor taxes here in Germany.
If (!) they help spying, this would be a violation of their business within the NATO Status of Forces Agreement ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 12:38 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Documents leaked by Snowden reveal the NSA makes a record of every telephone call in a specific, unnamed foreign country, and keeps the recordings for up to a month

NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls
Quote:
The National Security Agency has built a surveillance system capable of recording “100 percent” of a foreign country’s telephone calls, enabling the agency to rewind and review conversations as long as a month after they take place, according to people with direct knowledge of the effort and documents supplied by former contractor Edward Snowden.

A senior manager for the program compares it to a time machine — one that can replay the voices from any call without requiring that a person be identified in advance for surveillance.
JPB
 
  3  
Tue 18 Mar, 2014 12:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
from the article

Quote:
Some of the documents provided by Snowden suggest that high-volume eavesdropping may soon be extended to other countries, if it has not been already. The RETRO tool was built three years ago as a “unique one-off capability,” but last year’s secret intelligence budget named five more countries for which the MYSTIC program provides “comprehensive metadata access and content,” with a sixth expected to be in place by last October.


how nice
JTT
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 01:34 pm
@JPB,
Everyone should begin finishing their every call with "**** you, NSA!"
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JTT
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 01:39 pm
@JPB,
Ed Snowden: “When I came public it wasn’t to single-handedly change the government. I wanted to inform the public so they could make their own decision,” Snowden told the audience. “I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution and I saw that the Constitution was being violated on a massive scale.”

John Stockwell: What about the oath of secrecy I signed when I joined the CIA in 1964? I cannot be bound by it for four reasons: First, my oath was illegally, fraudulently obtained. My CIA recruiters lied to me about the clandestine services as they swore me in. They insisted the CIA functioned to gather intelligence. It did not kill, use drugs, or damage people's lives, they assured me. These lies were perpetuated in the following year of training courses. It was not until the disclosures of the Church and Pike Committees in 1975 that I learned the full, shocking truth about my employers.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 02:44 pm
Edward Snowden: NSA whistleblower's leaks prompt US to make control of internet truly worldwide
Quote:
The web may be thought of as being worldwide, but from its inception the internet was created, controlled and overseen largely by a single country: the United States. Now, however, the US Government has said it intends to yield the reins to the global digital community.

The US Commerce Department has announced that it has asked the California-based Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) to plan a handover to an as-yet-undefined group consisting of both private and public “stakeholders”.

Fadi Chehadé, the president and chief executive of Icann, said: “We are inviting governments, the private sector, civil society, and other internet organisations from the whole world to join us in developing this transition process… All stakeholders deserve a voice in the management and governance of this global resource as equal partners.”

Observers say the decision was prompted by the whistle-blower Edward Snowden’s recent revelations, and that the subsequent backlash may have forced the administration to relinquish its historical control over the administration of the internet. As Rob Atkinson of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a Washington DC think-tank, put it, the US is “giving up its traditional ‘bodyguard’ role of Internet governance”.

... ... ...
spendius
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 03:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
My first thought about that Walt is that if you believe it you'll believe anything.
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hingehead
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 08:06 pm
The Snowden interview on TED
http://www.ted.com/talks/edward_snowden_here_s_how_we_take_back_the_internet
JTT
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 08:36 pm
@hingehead,
Cool, HH. I wonder if Frank Apisa has watched, will watch it.

What does TED actually mean?
hingehead
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 08:45 pm
@JTT,
It's an acronym for Technology, Entertainment, Design - to quote wikipedia:
Quote:
is a global set of conferences owned by the private non-profit Sapling Foundation, under the slogan "ideas worth spreading". TED was founded in 1984 as a one-off event. The annual conference began in 1990, in Monterey, California.
JTT
 
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Tue 18 Mar, 2014 08:59 pm
@hingehead,
Thanks,HH. I guess I coulda googled but I thought I was way not up to speed and everyone wud know what it meant.
spendius
 
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Wed 19 Mar, 2014 04:45 am
@JTT,
The idea of TED's acronym is to imply that non-fans are backward, boring and useless and do not do technology, entertainment and design which are the exclusive mission of the gumps who started it in 1984 before which date technology, entertainment and design didn't exist.
JTT
 
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Wed 19 Mar, 2014 11:04 am
@spendius,
You're only a Luddite when you want to be, Spendi.
spendius
 
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Wed 19 Mar, 2014 11:42 am
@JTT,
There's nothing like the words "technology" and "design" to grow feathers on the chest.

The modern design of drinking cups is such that it is a wonder we are not all dehydrated.
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 19 Mar, 2014 12:20 pm
@spendius,
The TED conferences & videos are in general of top quality. Let's not grump for the sake of grumping...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 19 Mar, 2014 01:57 pm
US tech giants knew of NSA data collection, agency's top lawyer insists
Quote:
The senior lawyer for the National Security Agency stated unequivocally on Wednesday that US technology companies were fully aware of the surveillance agency’s widespread collection of data, contradicting month of angry denials from the firms.

Rajesh De, the NSA general counsel, said all communications content and associated metadata harvested by the NSA under a 2008 surveillance law occurred with the knowledge of the companies – both for the internet collection program known as Prism and for the so-called “upstream” collection of communications moving across the internet.
 

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