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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
JTT
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank: Theft is theft here also...and murder is murder. Charges are brought...and a judge and jury decide the issue. Then it can be appealed...on up to the SCOTUS.
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Need I remind you, Frank, that war crimes are war crimes too but you stated that you thought it best that USA presidents not be charged with their war crimes nor felonies committed under USA law.

Why the hypocrisy?
anonymously99
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Very nice. Wink
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:05 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

I am saying that Rand Paul is not competent authority to make charges of the sort we are discussing.


Hi, F.A. Just a quick word on the Libertarian, Rand Paul....I'm aware he's not the subject of this thread, but he has surfaced a few times.

The relentless boisterous Rand Paul is running a purely political campaign as he could not care one iota for the substance at hand.....he's making a squawking noise, hoping to be heard; this blowhard is trying to create his case for the 2016 presidential election. He has also brought to the surface again the sexual scandal which threatened President Bill Clinton's presidency with the then 22-year-old White House intern Monica Lewinsky. It was consensual because Monica was over 21 and thoroughly infatuated with the President , yet Paul (after 30 yrs) is crying Clinton was a sexual predator taking advantage of a young girl working in his office, and anyone allowing Clinton to fund raise for them is culpable of condoning such action.

Paul Rand was given a withering censure by the conservative Wall Street Journal for saying Edward Snowden was a hero. The Journal said Rand Paul "was unsuitable to be Commander-in-chief."

"WSJ: Rand Paul ‘Unsuitable To Be Commander In Chief’

"Scathing editorial in Wednesday’s Wall Street Journal, regarding Sen. Rand Paul‘s (R-Ky.) defense of admitted NSA leaker Edward Snowden:

"As President, Mr. Paul couldn’t behave like some ACLU legal gadfly. He’d be responsible for setting standards for the entire security bureaucracy. To offer Mr. Snowden leniency on such terms would send a signal that any federal employee could leak any secret as long as he claims a higher moral cause. …

"If Mr. Paul wants to make that case, he can do so in the GOP primaries. We don’t agree, and we doubt the courts or the American public will either. But arguing that Edward Snowden is some kind of national hero shows an unseriousness about national security that would make him unsuitable to be Commander in Chief."

http://www.dailypaul.com/309663/wsj-rand-paul-unsuitable-to-be-commander-in-chief
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Moment-in-time writes:

Rand comes across as flaky after his plagiarism from other authors' works including Wikipedia, pretending the writing was his exclusively. This brazen politician is trying his best to appeal to the Tea Party base and then he'll try to appeal to mainstream America. In my personal opinion, a snow ball has more of a chance of surviving in hell than Rand Paul has of becoming president of the US.
anonymously99
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:06 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Why the hypocrisy?


I was very unaware of the fact that you love blueberries.
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anonymously99
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:08 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time. Why the Jealousy!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:10 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
a snow ball has more of a chance of surviving in hell than Rand Paul has of becoming president of the US.


Amen!


Which, of course, is one of the reasons I'd be willing to donate time and energy to his campaign for the Republican nomination!
Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:16 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Still, Ron Paul can be a "useful idiot" if his law suit goes all the way to the SCOTUS and they make a ruling on whether mass surveillance programmes are constitutional.

I just hope that Obama will get a fair trial. He deserves it!
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:17 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Still, Ron Paul can be a "useful idiot" if his law suit goes all the way to the SCOTUS and they make a ruling on whether mass surveillance programmes are constitutional.


Yup. And if the Queen had the right plumbing...she's be King!

Quote:
I just hope that Obama will get a fair trial. He deserves it!



We will be shoulder to shoulder on that, Olivier. IF charges are brought! Wink
Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:22 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I certainly hope that charges will be brought by whoever can do so competently. Mullah Omar maybe? But more importantly, I hope that the SCOTUS rules unambiguously on this matter. That the executive branch be allowed to spy on the legislative branch of government is clearly a problem on separation of powers counts, let alone the issue of whether citizens can be spied on without probable cause or a warrant by the government...
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:29 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

I certainly hope that charges will be brought by whoever can do so competently. Mullah Omar maybe? But more importantly, I hope that the SCOTUS rules unambiguously on this matter. That the executive branch be allowed to spy on the legislative branch of government is clearly a problem on separation of powers counts, let alone the issue of whether citizens can be spied on without probable cause or a warrant by the government...


Nothing wrong with hoping, Olivier! Wink

Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:32 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

Which, of course, is one of the reasons I'd be willing to donate time and energy to his campaign for the Republican nomination!


Very Happy So would I. In fact, I think Ted Cruz has more of a chance than Rand Paul, and everyone is aware Cruz is stuck in "NOWHERE LAND" as far as the US presidency goes.
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:35 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:

Which, of course, is one of the reasons I'd be willing to donate time and energy to his campaign for the Republican nomination!


Very Happy So would I. In fact, I think Ted Cruz has more of a chance than Rand Paul, and everyone is aware Cruz is stuck in "NOWHERE LAND" as far as the US presidency goes.


I'd also donate time and energy to Ted Cruz's campaign for the Republican nod.

And if they ran as a tandem with either on top...I'd donate time, energy...and borrow money to donate to them! Wink

Normally, I have no sympathy for the Republicans at all...

...but right now I actually feel a twinge, because they truly are wallowing in slop!
anonymously99
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:35 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Quote:
Snowdon is a dummy


Snowdon and I have something in common. Very Happy
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anonymously99
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:37 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
...but right now I actually feel a twinge, because they truly are wallowing in slop!


The usual words I speak being oink oink. Isn't that what swine do and say?

Damn you caught me.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:

Yup. And if the Queen had the right plumbing...she's be King!


Ah, what witticism! Oops! Don't mean to embarrass you with my compliment, FA. I realize from past experience on a2k some posters will pounce on you because some of us appreciate your wit.
revelette2
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You know, if you don't get off your high horse, I'll be putting you on ignore. I never said he don't have the right to change his mind. In fact that is not what he said, he said the Patriot Act was not intended to cover data collecting and things like that. (words to that effect)
JTT
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:46 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
MiT: Ah, what witticism! Oops! Don't mean to embarrass you with my compliment, FA.

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MiT: I'd love to do more, Frank, but I forgot my knee pads.
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JTT
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:49 pm
@revelette2,
Rev: I'll be putting you on ignore.

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How American of you, Rev.


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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:52 pm
@revelette2,
Quote:
The ability to collect records was supposed to be “confined to the situations in which the information was relevant to an authorized investigation,” Sensenbrenner argues. The “relevancy requirement was expressly incorporated into Section 215 when the law was reauthorized in 2006.”
Source
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Quote:
The ability to collect records was supposed to be “confined to the situations in which the information was relevant to an authorized investigation,” Sensenbrenner argues. The “relevancy requirement was expressly incorporated into Section 215 when the law was reauthorized in 2006.”
Source


And if the SCOTUS agrees...that will be the way it will be interpreted from then on.

Good luck with that!
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