Snowdon is a dummy

An independent federal privacy watchdog has concluded that the National Security Agency’s program to collect bulk phone call records has provided only “minimal” benefits in counterterrorism efforts, is illegal and should be shut down.

The findings are laid out in a 238-page report, scheduled for release by Thursday and obtained by The New York Times, that represent the first major public statement by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which Congress made an independent agency in 2007 and only recently became fully operational. [...]

The Obama administration has portrayed the bulk collection program as useful and lawful while at the same time acknowledging concerns about privacy and potential abuse. But in its report, the board lays out what may be the most detailed critique of the government’s once-secret legal theory behind the program: that a law known as Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows the F.B.I. to obtain business records deemed “relevant” to an investigation, can be legitimately interpreted as authorizing the N.S.A. to collect all calling records in the country.

The program “lacks a viable legal foundation under Section 215, implicates constitutional concerns under the First and Fourth Amendments, raises serious threats to privacy and civil liberties as a policy matter, and has shown only limited value,” the report said. “As a result, the board recommends that the government end the program.”More

My my you are playing games as your position had been clear from the beginning that individual such as Snowdon have no right to inform the American people and the congress for that matter of what had been happening behind their backs and in their name.

You are the one who had placed Hitler and Arnold name beside Snowdon not me.

As I said before I find that amusing as Hitler was the legal head of the German government and Arnold was taking the side of the "legal" government of the colonies at the time.

I have said that Snowden is accused of stealing classified government documents and releasing them to unauthorized people...and I think he should be given a fair trial on those charges.

I have said that Snowden is accused of stealing classified government documents and releasing them to unauthorized people...and I think he should be given a fair trial on those charges.

I am delighted you find it amusing...but I do not understand what you find amusing about that.

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I have said that Snowden is accused of stealing classified government documents and releasing them to unauthorized people...and I think he should be given a fair trial on those charges.

Like the people who ran the underground railroad should have been given a "fair" trial in the south before the civil war?

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I am delighted you find it amusing...but I do not understand what you find amusing about that.

By your logical anyone who would dare to have used his or her own moral judgment and hide Jews from the death camps would had been in the wrong as those rounds up was done in the name of the legal government of Germany at the time.

Hell what was being done to the Jews in those camps was a state secret so anyone who would have reveal those state secrets would hve been doing the same as Snowdon IE revealing state secrets.

Snowdon should not get any kind of a trial. He should however be given a damn ticker tape parade instead.

Those that should be given trials are the ones who are in power or was in power that had been lying to the American people and in one case to congress in public testimony.

Those who had been misusing the power to classify documents to carry out unconstitutional programs in secret should indeed be facing fair trials.

If you are saying that you find it amusing that I think Snowden deserves a fair trial...I am delighted for you, although I still do not understand the amusement.

Frank will have to continue to post about the fair trial ...

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He doesn't mean he cannot get a fair trial...but rather that he does not want a fair trial...he wants one that will exonerate him despite the fact that he apparently did steal classified documents and release them to unauthorized people.

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He doesn't mean he cannot get a fair trial...but rather that he does not want a fair trial...he wants one that will exonerate him despite the fact that he apparently did steal classified documents and release them to unauthorized people.

I don't know him. So I can't guess what he means but only read what he wrote.