Snowdon is a dummy

And when you add the grassy knoll and Area 51 into the mix...you have almost no time for golf or poker.

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And when you add the grassy knoll and Area 51 into the mix...you have almost no time for golf or poker.

You are a fool to compare the real risk of some intelligence agency hacking a computer of someone involved with Showdon to area 51.

The US government in the form of the FBI had broken into homes and installed recording software for law enforcement purposes on computers and that is on the public court record.

We even know the name of the software that a judge allowed them to installed in one case name Carnivore from the warrant he had issued.

You are proving yourself to be a fool Frank.

http://www.dw.de/snowden-ally-appelbaum-claims-his-berlin-apartment-was-invaded/a-17315069

The appropriate approach would be to cut the budgets of the spy agencies and to control them better, furthermore the encryption of communication should be legally guaranteed and the Internet's infrastructure should be altered accordingly."

just spy on the guys we know mean us harm!!!!

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just spy on the guys we know mean us harm!!!!

No Frank we all should allowed the government to monitor our every move 24 hours a day 365 days a year to proved to them we are not planning on doing any evil.

So you are suggesting that the intelligence agency just spy on the guys we know mean to harm us!

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So you are suggesting that the intelligence agency just spy on the guys we know mean to harm us!

Of course they do as even the outside of all our mail in the US are scan all 160 billions pieces of the mail a year!!!!!!!!

We are all assume to be a risk by the government even our soldiers calling home was not trusted to do so in private by one NSA program.

Do you think our intelligence agencies should limit their spying only to the guys we know mean to harm us?

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Do you think our intelligence agencies should limit their spying only to the guys we know mean to harm us?

I think we and the nation would be far better off and safer if we would cut their budget by 80 percents and force them to focus on likely risks not everyone who dare to mail a letter or our own soldiers calling home.

By a member of the President own panel on the subject not one attacked had been stop due to the keeping of all phone records in the nation since shortly after 911.

Well...would limiting their intelligence gathering only to the people they know are a threat be the best way to go?

Does that mean that we should stop spying on the Isrialies even though we know they spy on us? I bet most of our allies spy on us. Maybe when the holders of the stolen data release the rest of it we will find out.

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Well...would limiting their intelligence gathering only to the people they know are a threat be the best way to go?

Once more assuming that everyone is a risk and spending the resource to monitor everyone as they are now doing is not only a god awful invasion of privacy but a completed waste of resources that should be focus far better.

Listening to our soldiers having phone sex with their wives is highly unlikely to made you a bit safer Frank.

surprised you havent thought about foreign countries spying while they deny they are doing so.

It hasent occurred to you that people who are spying on us are stationed in the U S of A? That is what the spying, as you call it is trying to catch. Remember 9/11. They were in the U S of A and did their planning here. If we had had this program maybe we might have stopped it before it happened. Not a sure thing since Bush wasent interested in Clintons warnings.

Well, Israel is certainly not disreputable like the UN and much of Europe.

But while we are friends with Israel, the US and Israel do indeed spy on each other.

Israel's Intelligence Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz responded on Saturday to reports claiming that American and British intelligence agencies intercepted emails from on the offices of top Israeli officials, saying that spying on Israel by friendly countries is "unacceptable."

Speaking on Channel 2's "Meet the Press," Steinitz said: "We do not spy on the President of the United States. We have undertaken commitments on the matter and we are fulfilling them."

"Our working assumption is that not only Arab states are trying to spy on us, but friendly countries as well," Steinitz said. "We do not talk about secret matter in the regular mailing system." He added the report serves as a reminder to adhere to security standards.
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MK Nachman Shai (Kadima) filed an urgent motion for the Knesset to discuss the reports of the U.S. spying.

"Israel is a friendly state to the U.S., and since the Pollard affair 30 years ago it stopped all espionage in the U.S.," Shai said, and added that the U.S. must clarify its actions and formally announce it will not continue to spy on Israeli officials.

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Well, Israel is certainly not disreputable like the UN and much of Europe.

But while we are friends with Israel, the US and Israel do indeed spy on each other.

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Israel's Intelligence Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz responded on Saturday to reports claiming that American and British intelligence agencies intercepted emails from on the offices of top Israeli officials, saying that spying on Israel by friendly countries is "unacceptable."

Speaking on Channel 2's "Meet the Press," Steinitz said: "We do not spy on the President of the United States. We have undertaken commitments on the matter and we are fulfilling them."

"Our working assumption is that not only Arab states are trying to spy on us, but friendly countries as well," Steinitz said. "We do not talk about secret matter in the regular mailing system." He added the report serves as a reminder to adhere to security standards.
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MK Nachman Shai (Kadima) filed an urgent motion for the Knesset to discuss the reports of the U.S. spying.

"Israel is a friendly state to the U.S., and since the Pollard affair 30 years ago it stopped all espionage in the U.S.," Shai said, and added that the U.S. must clarify its actions and formally announce it will not continue to spy on Israeli officials.

Source: Haaretz report Dec. 21, 2013 | 8:23 PM: U.S. spying is 'unacceptable,' says Israel's intelligence affairs minister

And if we give our word not to spy on them...it is reasonable to assume we will not spy on them.