@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:Sorry my friend but the NSA is and had been completely out of control and over funded
The NSA are completely under control. Their job is to spy on enemies and fake allies, and they do their job very well.
I wouldn't mind seeing their funding increased.
BillRM wrote:and are ruining our relationship with the rest of the world.
When fake allies concoct bogus excuses and start attacking us, the only people to blame for those attacks are the fake allies.
The only thing to do about it is to tell the NSA to keep very close tabs on those fake allies so we won't be caught off guard when they try to stab us in the back.
BillRM wrote:Nor have the mass phone spying program been shown to be making us one bet safer and as a example of that all those phone records had not found or stop one attack on the US.
NSA is screwing the nation big time.
Quote:http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/20/21975158-nsa-program-stopped-no-terror-attacks-says-white-house-panel-member
A member of the White House review panel on NSA surveillance said he was “absolutely” surprised when he discovered the agency’s lack of evidence that the bulk collection of telephone call records had thwarted any terrorist attacks.
“It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”
While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”
“We found none,” said Stone.
Under the NSA program, first revealed by ex-contractor Edward Snowden, the agency collects in bulk the records of the time and duration of phone calls made by persons inside the United States.
Stone was one of five members of the White House review panel – and the only one without any intelligence community experience – that this week produced a sweeping report recommending that the NSA’s collection of phone call records be terminated to protect Americans’ privacy rights.
The panel made that recommendation after concluding that the program was “not essential in preventing attacks.”
“That was stunning. That was the ballgame,” said one congressional intelligence official, who asked not to be publicly identified. “It flies in the face of everything that they have tossed at us.”
Oh come on. That is so obviously propaganda.
Snowden damaged that particular program so much that is is no longer effective, so it is being put forth as "the big bogeyman" that they will then kill/cancel.
Then everyone who has been manipulated into thinking the NSA is doing something wrong will be manipulated into thinking everything is OK again.