Snowdon is a dummy

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Now...if you want to do what I do with you just about every post...and actually quote in box something I have said...and question me about it...I may accommodate you.

Hmmm thank you but I think I'm good. I said what I wanted to say and got the answers to my questions.

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We don't need him to surrender. We need to get him on the inside of a thermobaric fireball. Nice and crispy.

That a fate I would must prefer befall both the NSA headquarter and the Utah NSA storage center.

Members of Chancellor Merkel’s center-right Christian Democrats have expressed openness to receiving testimony from Edward Snowden. But they are skeptical that the US whistle-blower can travel to Germany.
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CDU spokesman for domestic affairs Hans-Peter Uhl told the daily Berliner Zeitung on Saturday that a German delegation could possibly travel to Moscow to question Snowden about the surveillance operations of the US National Security Agency (NSA).
"A trip by Snowden to Germany would be problematic because it is questionable whether or not he would receive asylum here," Uhl said. "If he didn't receive asylum, then there's the extradition application from the Americans."
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German representatives are currently negotiating a "no-spy agreement" to end the NSA surveillance operations in the country. However, Greens chief Simone Peter called on Merkel to confront US President Barack Obama in person over the issue.
"A no-spy agreement isn't enough," Peter told a German regional newspaper on Saturday. "Angela Merkel needs to immediately meet with President Obama in Washington, and put US snooping in its place."

I am curious though, I thought Snowden handed over all of his information and copies of the materials he stole from NSA. What else would he have to testify about that the newspapers don't already have in their possession?

Sounds like something that ought be discussed with a psychiatrist!

In that case, I think, his lawyers should be careful.

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Sounds like something that ought be discussed with a psychiatrist!

An this from a man who think that Snowdon should surrender himself to the US government instead of building a new life for himself in Russia or any other nation that is not in the control of the US.

By the way let me address your comment that the US would not hang him.

Yes indeed all they would do is locked him away in a small cell where he would have little contact with anyone or be let out for more then an hour a day for the rest of his life.

Sound like hanging would be far kinder.

As I said, 'don't know' is a perfectly valid answer.

punished according to the law.

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punished according to the law.

Any law that would punish the man would be as morally wrong as the laws that return runaway slaves happen to had been or placed mixed race couples in prison for marrying and on and on and on.

By revealing what acts the government was doing in secret against the American people Snowdon did more to defend our constitution then Obama by far.

Footnote one of the laws he is charge with violating was used during WW1 to placed a movie director in prison for creating a movie that show the British in a bad light during the Revolution.

As I noted, I feel considerably different from you on this issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_World_War_I

the Espionage Act of 1917 was passed to prevent spying but also contained a section which criminalized inciting or attempting to incite any mutiny, desertion, or refusal of duty in the armed forces, punishable with a fine of not more than $10,000, not more than twenty years in federal prison, or both. Thousands of anti-war activists and unhappy citizens were prosecuted on authority of this and the Sedition Act of 1918, which tightened restrictions even more. Among the most famous was Eugene Debs, chairman of the Socialist Party of the USA for giving an anti-war speech in Ohio. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld these prosecutions in a series of decisions. Conscientious objectors were punished as well, most of them Christian pacifist inductees. They were placed directly in the armed forces and court-martialed, receiving draconian sentences and harsh treatment. A number of them died in Alcatraz Prison, then a military facility. Vigilante groups were formed which suppressed dissent as well, such as by rounding up draft-age men and checking if they were in possession of draft cards or not.

Ben Salmon was a Catholic conscientious objector and outspoken critic of Just War theology. During World War I, America's Roman Catholic Hierarchy denounced him and The New York Times described him as a "spy suspect." The US military (in which he was never inducted) court-martialed him for desertion and spreading propaganda, then sentenced him to death (this was later revised to 25 years hard labor).[6]

Around 300,000 American men evaded or refused conscription in World War I. Aliens such as Emma Goldman were deported, while naturalized or even native-born citizens, including Eugene Debs, lost their citizenship for their activities. Helen Keller, a socialist, and Jane Addams, a pacifist, also publicly opposed the war, but neither was prosecuted, likely because they were sympathetic figures (Keller working to help fellow deaf-blind people and Addams in charity to benefit the poor).

In 1919, as the soldiers came home, disturbances continued, with veterans fighting strikers, the Seattle General Strike, race riots in the South and the Palmer Raids following two anarchist bombings. After the election of Warren G. Harding in 1920, Americans were eager to follow his campaign slogan of "Return to Normalcy." Anti-war dissidents in federal prison, such as Debs, and conscientious objectors, had their sentences commuted to time served or were pardoned on December 25, 1921. The Sedition Act was repealed in 1921, but the Espionage Act remains, and Richard Nixon attempted to invoke it in vain to prevent the Pentagon Papers being published in 1971. Many U.S. Supreme Court decisions since then have substantially, but not explicitly, gutted the provisions used to squelch dissent. Media withheld much oppostition to the war.

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