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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:10 pm
@BillRM,
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Then any American company is going to have a hard time selling any digit storage systems and so on.

Yes, that's what's brewing. Good time to start any digital company if you're not American.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:29 pm
@spendius,
Apparently, the fedupness is mainly focussed on the repukes right now re. their budget gamble. Some say they were reckless, others say they sold out... God knows what their plan was but it backfired spectacularly.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:34 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
It really is sweet of you oralloy to think the government gives a **** about a massacre or two. Excepting how it might exploit them in the furtherance of its fundamental objective. Power is addictive.
You sound like a Yes sir/ No sir man. Doesn't all progress come from Nays.

I honestly believe that most democratically elected governments are composed of people who genuinely care about those who they serve.

Can it go wrong? Yes. But I think government gets more of a bad rap than it deserves.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

I was reading an analysis the other day that has it that NSA's #1 problem is that 99.9999999999999999999999999% of what it collects is crap so it cant find the good stuff. the #2 problem is that collecting all this crap is costly in treasure and good will towards the government.

I Am listening.


Could you give a link to that study or analysis while you are listening.

I'd like to read it myself.

Sounds phony to me.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:36 pm
@oralloy,
What you call "bad rap" is being experienced by many families who lost jobs and income. I call that "idiocy."
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:37 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
He should be given a fair trial.


He should be given a medal and a lot of the people in our government who are daily breaking the constitution should be given trials.


I understand that you feel that way, Bill. I still think he deserves a fair trial.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I know that Frank is confused as to who the law breaker is.
What US laws did Snowden break for him to even stand trial?


That was outlined in the charges I offered earlier. I gave a link. He stole government secrets...and he disclosed them to people who were not authorized to get them.

They are crimes.


Quote:
Kangaroo court?


Not at all.


Quote:
He revealed that the US government broke the laws.


Did he? What that he has revealed has been found to be "the US government breaking laws?"


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There are laws based on our Constitution that Obama broke the law.


The courts have not said so. I think you are wrong here, ci.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:41 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
We need the intelligence.


We do not need the email address books and friend lists of most of the world citizens to a tune of such lists being stolen on average half a millions a day.

The results of all this unneeded spying is that the US government is being locked out the control of the internet that we up to this point had been trusted with just to start with.

Then any American company is going to have a hard time selling any digit storage systems and so on.





I would like Obama to keep any "reforms" to a minimum...and only after consultation with intelligence gathering experts.

Yes...we do need the intelligence.
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 04:45 pm
@Frank Apisa,
You do the "controlled" Frank Apisa with way too much phoniness, Frank. You should go back to the screaming, ranting frank Apisa.
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spendius
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 05:03 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
But I think government gets more of a bad rap than it deserves.


Okay, but it really is boring trusting the government. Take Apisa's posts as a example.

Any bad rap the jackshits get has been assiduously sought after and usually in a very humiliating and banal manner.

If Obarmy's posturing at the Newtown Memorial is any thing to go by, a million extra guns sold, I anticipate some acceleration of the PRISM project.
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JTT
 
  2  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 05:08 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Yes...we do need the intelligence.


You seriously do, Frank, need intelligence that is. Look at Iraq.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 05:15 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Yes, that's what's brewing. Good time to start any digital company if you're not American.


Given that anything could be hidden in Windows OS or Apple OS for that matter our government actions could end up harming two of the major US/world companies.

I can just see the EU nations and other first world nations mandating that any handling of government documents only be done with open source OS for example.

When you take actions that throw away any level of trust in either the US government or any companies working under US laws it is anyone guess where it will end.

BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 05:31 pm
People all over the planet are taking steps to made spying by NSA or anyone else a great deal harder.

Here is the first of it kind upcoming full audit of the security of the open source program truecrypt.

Quote:


http://news.softpedia.com/news/Researchers-to-Audit-TrueCrypt-to-See-If-It-s-Really-Secure-391588.shtml

Cryptography and information security experts are determined to audit TrueCrypt, the popular open source file and disk encryption software used by people from all over the world to protect their most sensitive information.

Kenneth White, principal scientist at BAO Systems, and Matthew Green, cryptographer and research professor at Johns Hopkins University, have started a couple of fundraisers to raise the money needed to perform a full audit of TrueCrypt.

The initiative comes in light of recent news regarding the NSA’s efforts to undermine encryption software.

“The 'problem' with Truecrypt is the same problem we have with any popular security software in the post-September-5 era: we don't know what to trust anymore,” Green said.

“We have hard evidence that the NSA istampering with encryption software and hardware, and common sense tells us that NSA is probably not alone. Truecrypt, as popular and widely trusted as it is, makes a fantastic target for subversion,” he added.

“But quite frankly there are other things that worry me about Truecrypt. The biggest one is that nobody knows who wrote it. This skeeves me out. As Dan Kaminsky puts it, 'authorship is a better predictor of quality than openness'. I would feel better if I knew who the TrueCrypt authors were.”

Green highlights the fact that even if the encryption software’s source code is trustworthy, many people use it as a Windows binary, which isn’t necessarily the same.

Besides a professional audit by security evaluation companies, the experts also want to have the license reviewed by a competent attorney, pay out bug bounties to those who find security issues, and implement deterministic/reproducible builds.

The fundraisers are on FundFill and Indiegogo. So far, over $22,000 (€16,000) have been raised.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 06:32 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
When you take actions that throw away any level of trust in either the US government or any companies working under US laws it is anyone guess where it will end.

We should start a 100% clean social network. Under the name of some French guy for instance... Smile
JTT
 
  0  
Fri 18 Oct, 2013 07:35 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Kenneth White, principal scientist at BAO Systems, and Matthew Green, cryptographer and research professor at Johns Hopkins University, have started a couple of fundraisers to raise the money needed to perform a full audit of TrueCrypt.


Frank Apisa is giving up golf for a year and donating his green fees to help fund this audit program.
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JTT
 
  0  
Sat 19 Oct, 2013 12:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I would like Obama to keep any "reforms" to a minimum...and only after consultation with intelligence gathering experts.

Yes...we do need the intelligence.


You sheeple are being played for the idiots that you are, for the idiots that you have always been.

There have been fewer attacks of retribution against the US recently than there were in the 1970s, [1] but you cowering little sheeple are so easily scared by your minders. And these minders are supposed to be working for you, the people - what a monstrously ridiculous joke that is.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Sat 19 Oct, 2013 01:38 pm
@Olivier5,
Like general de Gaulle for instance.
JTT
 
  0  
Sat 19 Oct, 2013 02:03 pm
@RABEL222,
You missed the post before this most recent tangent of yours, Rabel the coward.
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JTT
 
  0  
Sat 19 Oct, 2013 02:42 pm
@JTT,
I forgot to include the link for the footnote [1].

There have been fewer attacks of retribution against the US recently than there were in the 1970s, [1]


[1]
Four decades of US terror attacks listed and detailed

How many terror attacks have hit the US since 1970 - and how serious are they?

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/apr/17/four-decades-us-terror-attacks-listed-since-1970
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 20 Oct, 2013 07:32 am
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The top 5 things we’ve learned about the NSA thanks to Edward Snowden
And the top 5 things that have happened as a result of the whistleblowing.
[...]
http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w641/Walter_Hinteler/b_zpsed092a7b.jpg
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