The Bible (a discussion)

@spendius,

spendius wrote:

ros wrote:
At least I'm engaged in an honest discussion where reasoning and logic have some meaning and where questions get answered.
ros has not answered one of my questions in many years. He has me on Ignore. Which requires him to define reason and logic for his own convenience and to imagine that emotions are a fantasy.

Watch this--hey ros--where in the Bible is the evolution theory presented in 30 words? I can answer it.

I suppose ros will now have me on ignore in spite of me having posted this disclaimer;

I wrote:

I wish I could demonstrate with empirical certainty that I have stumbled upon the correct interpretation(s). I have no authority to make any claims other than what I find in the Bible. And, I'm just an ordinary schluck. I'm from New Jersey, for goodness sake . . .

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@rosborne979,

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I see. So you chose to avoid this question...

Having posters on Ignore avoids all their questions.

I can't believe what I'm seeing.

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@MontereyJack,

neologist asks:

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Tell me which teaching, originating in Babylon, became part of the Hebrew belief?
Or Christianity?

The Hebbrew, Christian and Islaemic beliefs are spring out of the same place and are very similar in there contents.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

I have yet to accumulate disciples, so perhaps there is another reason. However, I do ask you to review the entire conversation between Ros and me. It appears he has forgotten something.

That is not from lack of "want", it is simple a failure on your part. People often want to display their failures as lacking in intent!

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@neologist,

Indeed. I also think I'm as familiar with it as yourself.

Obviously, our views of it differ fundamentally..

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@timur,

We might not notice if we happened to sit cross table with pitcher in between, Especially if you bought.

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@neologist,

Fat chance of that happening.

As a bible follower, you certainly make yours this saying of Luke (11.23) :

- He who is not with me is against me.

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@timur,

timur wrote:

Fat chance of that happening.

As a bible follower, you certainly make yours this saying of Luke (11.23) :

- He who is not with me is against me.

Very classy response to an attempt by Neo to calm things down a bit.

You must be a very classy guy.

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@Frank Apisa,

You are a poor judge of class, from what I can gather..

In addition, we are discussing the bible, which class is also controversial to say the least.

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@timur,

timur wrote:

You are a poor judge of class, from what I can gather..

In addition, we are discussing the bible, which class is also controversial to say the least.

Yup...a man of outstanding class!

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

timur wrote:

You are a poor judge of class, from what I can gather..

In addition, we are discussing the bible, which class is also controversial to say the least.

Yup...a man of outstanding class!

When I was in junior high school, if you were caught by the hall monitor outstanding by the class room, it was an automatic lick or two from the vice-principal.

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@timur,

timur wrote:

Fat chance of that happening.

As a bible follower, you certainly make yours this saying of Luke (11.23) :

- He who is not with me is against me.

Then we should arm wrestle over that table.

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@neologist,

Follow your bible, ok?

Ephesians 6:12

- For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood,...

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Tell me which teaching, originating in Babylon, became part of the Hebrew belief?

We could start with the bulk of the Book of Genesis.

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@MontereyJack,

Right on, Monterey! The entire body of the so-called Ten Commandments is a rehash of Hammurabi's dicta, in some cases virtually verbatim.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Does that make a difference when on the point of consummating an adultery?

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@spendius,

Does your question have some relevance to this discussion?

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@Lustig Andrei,

I would have said so--yes. Very much so.

That the "Ten Commandments is a rehash of Hammurabi's dicta, in some cases virtually verbatim", carries with it a distinct whiff of the idea that they are therefore of little consequence and only fools allow them any credibility.

Yes--what I said was very relevant.

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@Lustig Andrei,

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Does your question have some relevance to this discussion?

Such a rhetorical question, there was no need to ask it in any other way, implies that my post had no relevance. Thus you are engaged in a circularity by which your implication proves your own point.

Objective nonsense in other words.

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@Lustig Andrei,

MontereyJack wrote:

neologist asks:
Quote:
Tell me which teaching, originating in Babylon, became part of the Hebrew belief?
Or Christianity?
Well, the flood myth, for one.

MontereyJack wrote:

The influence of pre-existing Hammurabic law on Mosaic law, for another.

BillW wrote:

The Hebbrew, Christian and Islaemic beliefs are spring out of the same place and are very similar in there contents.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

We could start with the bulk of the Book of Genesis.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Right on, Monterey! The entire body of the so-called Ten Commandments is a rehash of Hammurabi's dicta, in some cases virtually verbatim.

I see your point(s)
You are saying that because Moses completed his writings in the 16th century CE, that he could not have learned the truth being a direct descendant of Shem, Abraham, Jacob, etc. At least we do know from where Moses came. And who came after him.
But I see your point(s)

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