FBM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 12:17 am
@neologist,
Spoiler Alert: We all die. Then we are put in the ground or spread around as ashes or some such. Then grass and trees and whatnot use the minerals. Et cetera ad infinitum.
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 04:18 am
@FBM,
Quote:
We all die. Then we are put in the ground or spread around as ashes or some such.

This is obvious. We all know that. Why don't you tell us something that we don't know, like for example what is the difference between living matter and non-living matter?
- How far an embryo is just a part of the mother's body and when it becomes a separate being?
- Do you believe in the abiogenesis? Do you think that the big bang disposes with the tools and the feasibility to design and to execute abiogenesis (with or without the odds)?
- When a virus is dead and when it is just deactivated?
- How does a given bio-structure becomes highly executable bio-code ... and sets in operation the body & the cell metabolism by interacting selectively with the environment?
- When we die a lot of our cells remain living 'at random' (executing random metabolic functions) ... the tissue of the lungs for example. How does that happen?
- How does a DNA structure becomes living matter and when it becomes dead tissue ... and why ... and notwithstanding it might have remained untouched as a structure it is considered dead?
- Can all this happen without intelligent design (by whomever)?
- Can the probability theory arrange and set in operation highly executable bio-code ... and how does that happen?
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 04:25 am
@Herald,
How do questions about biochemistry answer the question in the OP? Those are just ongoing (and potential) research topics. The questions would be better framed around the existence/nature/substance/function of and evidence for the deity in question, "spiritual substance" and the like.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 06:45 am
FBM said:
Quote:
Spoiler Alert: We all die. Then we are put in the ground or spread around as ashes or some such. Then grass and trees and whatnot use the minerals. Et cetera ad infinitum

Yeah but what happens to the soul that was inside the body?
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FBM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 07:14 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
What soul?
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 07:55 am
FBM said:
Quote:
What soul?

We've all got one, it's the soul or "spirit" that Jesus came to try to save like he said- "The spirit within gives life,the flesh alone is worthless" (John 6:63 )

When the body dies, the soul flies..Smile
If we've buddied with Jesus during our lives, our souls automatically fly through the 'Jesus Stargate' when our bodies die, like he said-
"Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it,but small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."(Matt 7:13)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stargateJesus.gif
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 08:01 am
@FBM,
The soul? It's that stuff that religious people bandy about that supposed to survive after our physical death.

There's no proof of such a thing, but many people on this planet believe in it.

Humans are descendants from primates through the process of evolution; we're no different than other living things on this planet. Sex produces progenies. That's how life on this planet happens. Ever see an elephant ****?

Know anything about the birds and the bees? It's all the same; and they don't have souls either!

FBM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 08:13 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Some evidence might help.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 08:19 am
By "locking on" to Jesus at this end on earth, our souls fly through the 'Jesus Stargate' and exit at the other one on the edge of the known universe-
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End" (Revelation 21:6)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stargate-known-universe.gif

"Thomas said to him, 'Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?'
Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:5)


The bottom line is that Jesus is a thoroughly nice guy, so who the hell wouldn't want to lock onto him anyway? If anybody rejects him they'll be in a world o' hurt, think "lost souls"-
"Ungodly men, wandering stars for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:4-19)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/freakouteyes.jpg

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FBM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 08:53 am
Chris Walken is god. I've never doubted that for a moment.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 08:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quite right, CI.
We don't have souls. We are souls.
Animals also are souls.

Hebrew word 'nephesh' means 'breather'
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 09:07 am
ME- "Be careful Chris!"
WALKEN- "Relax i'm not worried, there'll probably be no bullet in the chamber when I pull the trigger, just like there's probably no God in heaven"..Smile

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 09:07 am
@neologist,
We are not "souls." We are a piece of biology that happens to get life and death the same way as most other living things. Soul is a religious bull **** that many people believe in; which doesn't make it true.

Quote:
soul
sōl/Submit
noun
1.
the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 09:21 am
When Jesus said- "I came to save the world" (John 12:47), he wasn't talking about this ball of spinning mud called earth, or about our squishy bodies, he was talking about our souls..Smile

And he didn't want mindless robots, he wants MATES!-
"You're my friends if you follow me. I don't call you servants, but I call you friends"- (John 15:15)

Like I've said before, it's impossible not to like him, so if even an atheist says "Jesus seems an ok guy", they've at least got a good chance of riding through the pearlies with him, because his message to us all was- "Fire up your Harley's and stick with me, muchachos!"

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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 10:14 am
@cicerone imposter,
I was not talking about the popular definition, rather the meaning of the biblical word translated as soul, 'nephesh' = 'breather'
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 10:42 am
Christianity wants REBELS, not with violence, but with the guts to spit in the eye of the world-
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Pet 1:18 )
"Don't conform to the pattern of this world" (Rom 12:2)
"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil" (Eph 6:12).


Waddya say Johnny?

farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 10:49 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Evangelicals sound an offal lot like Republicans. They know whats good for everybody and everybody better damn well tow the line.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 10:58 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Evangelicals sound an offal lot like Republicans.
That's getting to the guts of the matter. Farmer. Laughing Laughing
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 09:09 pm
@neologist,
how do you know that its not one of my patented spelling errors?
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 09:32 pm
Calling God on the cell...
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