RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:50 am
@neologist,
Neo, you have always had a humble quality to your personality... even though we don't always agree, you are still amiable and compassionate to others. Those qualities go a long way in this world in my opinion...

neologist
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 01:02 am
@RexRed,
Humble enough to ask what the heck s.th means when it apparently is known only to the elite.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 02:09 am
@neologist,
I agree I stumbled over the term several times and thought, what? Lost in translation I guess...

Noun, 1. STH - a hormone produced by the anterior pituitary gland; promotes growth in humans. growth hormone, human growth hormone, somatotrophic ...

mebbe not Smile
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 04:59 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
you are still amiable and compassionate to others. Those qualities go a long way in this world in my opinion...


In some circumstances maybe. Those qualities can be applied aggressively and ruthlessly when being popular is the goal. Or to sell something else.

You're a believer in word magic Rex. Just say the words and --hey presto--we are all basking in the glow of feeling amiable and compassionate and watching NFL and the news of the latest drone strikes. A sort of sedative. Short rest periods from the strain of being materialistic bastards. Lacunas of delusion.

Get a branch to tweet on. Evolution has no such qualities. It's red in tooth and claw. Simply because it shows the Pope to be a jackass doesn't alter that simple fact.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 05:13 am
@neologist,
Quote:
Humble enough to ask what the heck s.th means when it apparently is known only to the elite.


It's very bad manners to ask people what they mean by certain words and expressions they drop into their discourse in order to show off their intellectual credentials. You won't be invited to many social occasions if you get a reputation for that sort of thing.

It should be sufficient to be privileged, as a humble person, to be in conversation with a member of any one of a large range of elites.

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timur
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 06:43 am
@neologist,
Fits you so well, doesn't it?

You asked a question and you don't like the answer.

The ugly face of christianity showing under the veneer of sociability..
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 07:06 am
@Herald,
Quote:
If you have a SUV - change it for s.th. normal, if you have middle class car, use better lubrication oils and some cleaner fuels (propane-butane, gas-methane diesel or something like that ... and consult your auto-mechanic and/or the car producer), if you use clean fuels - make it hybrid; if it is hybrid - make it completely electrical ... with hydrogen cells ... and charge it from solar panels.


What about staying home and twiddling your thumbs? There are a lot of amusing hypocrisies in this world but the green, concerned for the planet, all action motorist is definitely one of the funniest.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 07:11 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
I would rather be a completely autonomous free thinker than be a drone to stagnant religious pomp and circumstance.


And "stagnant" is a pejorative assertion completely out of place in anyone who is "habitually digging deeper to get to the heart of things".

Dig into why you used that word.

Quote:
makes me more sensible than most and far less gullible in general...


The standard position of the arrogant.
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 07:19 am
@neologist,
Quote:
s.th

s.th = 'something ... of the kind'
What are you asking about that something, whether it is:
- 'some thing' as substitude for unimportant and/or unspecified description
or
- 'some thing' as substitute for unknown or forgotten description
or
- 'some thing' as substitute for known and hidden description
With this interpretation of yours you may contribute to the dictionary ... without-any-problems.

Quote:
... when it apparently is known only to the elite.

Is this a 'conspiracy theory' (hypothesis without any evidences and justification), 'reasonable ground to believe' (assumption based on logical inferences) ... or 'conspiracy rhetorics' (art technique to improve the writing skills ... and to attract attention on the net)?
BTW the modesty adorns the person, but how much more personable you intend to become?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 07:22 am
@timur,
Quote:
The ugly face of christianity showing under the veneer of sociability..


There is no ugly face of Christianity. There is only the face of Christianity. Whether it is ugly is merely a personal taste no doubt derived from a wish for it to be.

Ugliness is meaningless without the counter concept of beauty. What beautiful alternative to Christianity do you propose? You do need one in order to justify "ugly".
timur
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 08:58 am
@spendius,
There is one, as I pointed out.

My alternative to christianity is no christianity and from my point of view it's beautiful enough.

It's the freedom to love or not to love, to appreciate or not to appreciate, to think or not to think, to dream or not to dream.

Christianity (and any other religion for that matter) is not the freedom of doing the above. It is a straitjacket intended to implement the ultimate control, the control of minds.

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timur
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 09:02 am
Spendius wrote:
Whether it is ugly is merely a personal taste no doubt derived from a wish for it to be.


The inference is gratuitous.

Playing Freud, aren't you?
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 11:50 am
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:08 pm
@spendius,
So two to ten percent of the population may abuse friendly compassion and that gives you a licence to abolish the ideal all together?

So some people abuse and misuse love (It is called "love bashing"). So does that mean we stop loving? "Look how loving we and our Bible are, so please come to our hateful church!" Because people love bash does that mean love is obsolete? I think not!

Spendi, your thought processes are, as usual, as ludicrous as your line of reasoning...

There are exceptions to every rule but that does not mean that because of these exceptions we make the exceptions the rule itself. That means we observe and regulate the exceptions and expose these charlatans and their abuses...

I see you Spendi abusing these rules and accepted modes of behavior much more than Neo... And you Spendi are using cheap rhetoric and rationalization to justify your abhorrent and bigoted (hypocritical) behavior.

RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:10 pm
@spendius,
I used the word "stagnant" because religion uses the word "canonized"...

I am very well aware of when and why I use most of my words Spendi...
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:13 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:
Fits you so well, doesn't it?

You asked a question and you don't like the answer.

The ugly face of christianity showing under the veneer of sociability. .

I at least cover my ugly face with a lightning bolt.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:21 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:
I wrote:
... when it apparently is known only to the elite.
Is this a 'conspiracy theory' (hypothesis without any evidences and justification), 'reasonable ground to believe' (assumption based on logical inferences) ... or 'conspiracy rhetorics' (art technique to improve the writing skills ... and to attract attention on the net)?
Simply an example of my sardonic wit.

Apparently, s.th = substandard thinking.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:22 pm
@RexRed,
Surely, Joel would agree
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Herald
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 12:23 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
What about staying home and twiddling your thumbs?

To optimize the carbon footprint of transportation is not 'staying at home'. Actually this is also an option - instead of travelling everyday 50 km to and fro the place of work, why not considering a job closer to home ... or home closer to the job location ?
All the personal energy that has been spent on developing SUVs (which enterprise is pointless & non-viable from any point of view in the capacity of wasting carbon footprint, wasting energy resources, being financially ruinous, etc.) if spent on green high-tech would have contribute to much better world, don't you think.
It is exactly the SUVs that are compelling the bankers to rise the shamless interest rates, the casino investors to look for the most ruinous pseudoeconomic activities ... in order to cover their SUV costs.
I was reading here in this blog that Christianity is constraining people, and atheism is providing personal freedom. This is good, but we live in a world (within a radius of 50 000 lys around which there is no other planet like ours) with highly constrained resources ... that with every day and in any way are becoming more & more depleted (incl. the energy from fossil fuels which is highly constrained by the margin of the CO2 emisisons).
The potable clean water is becoming more & more scarce (not to say that some guys are continuously planning how to make 50 MN % profit out of it).
Without food we can survive 1 month, without water - 3-5 days, without air - 3-5 min, which means that the quality of the air we breathe has the strongest bond to our body metabolism, hence the slightest air and water pollution (for our body is 65% water) is sending our biochemistry in the Dimension X, which means that the guys with the SUVs that are spending the energy equivalent to the power supply of a workshop of industrial enterprise (250 kW) to indulge to move from point A to point B are the most irresponsible deficient-minded elemenets that have ever existed on this planet.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 01:40 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
I used the word "stagnant" because religion uses the word "canonized"...


"Stagnant" has a specific meaning which is the same everywhere and has the same associations. "Canonized" has a meaning which is specific to one group of people and can be laughed at.

I know your reason for using stagnant even if you don't. The reason you have given is ludicrous.

And the Faustian Christian project, since the beginning of the Gothic in about 1,000 AD, has dynamic force as its Prime Symbol. Its principle legacy is our science which, at the end of a minor sub-branch, has brought understanding of and thus tolerance towards homosexuality. But not necessarily towards the pushy, in-your-face, versions of it which I suspect are only practiced by a minority of homosexuals as a form of street theatre in lieu of not having the patience to learn to play the violin.
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