Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

We did it in the Army; we did not feel un-civilized.

OK, Rex. What is a "sensible" gun law ?

Give that one some careful thought...

Most wars and the things wars do to social populations are not a civilizing agent.

Keep your guns at home if at all possible... This is why we have police...

It IS "possible" the same way that its possible
to leave your spare tire and your jack at home,
but it is not advisable. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

How many crimes are committed in front of the police ?

As the US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said in MOORE v. MADIGAN 708 F.3d 901 (2013),
the place where a citizen has the right to defend himself
is the place where he is attacked.

Your guns will do u little good, if u leave them home,
except when u are there. Yes ?

You are more terrified than an old lady crossing a busy intersection. Maybe a gun would help her too?

Your obsession is unbecoming.

Bring your jack, the spare tire and two more spares just in case! Bring the whole garage why don't you? And triple A cannot come and fix a tire? A lot better than fixing a flat on a busy interstate in the frozen rain...

Why go to a casino without taking all the money you own in the world why leave some at home?

Your logic only leads to a sloppy gambler trying to compensate for an obsessive addiction.

Open Carry Texas targets Target
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/04/1304356/-Open-Carry-Texas-targets-Target?detail=facebook

No, not at all, Rex. Sincerely, I feel 1OO% safe here.
I live in a nudist colony. As we speak, my door is open to the Florida night.
The point that I am trying to bring out here,
is that the other 3OO,OOO,OOO + citizens shud be defensively well armed.
I have already had enuf guns, for a long time. I don t need more guns.
I might get them anyway, but I don t need them. Like flowers, or more televisions,
I CAN get them, but I don 't need them. I want my fellow citizens armed to the teeth
and I want them trained in competent gunnery practices from early grades in public schools.

When I was home alone in Arizona at age 8,
for a while, I felt ill at ease, regarding how I 'd defend the place,
if that became necessary. (It never did; it was a good naborhood.)
When I got my first gun, then I was invested with serenity, tranquility & JOY, a sense of peaceful satisfaction.



Guns are emergency equipment.
If she has a predatory emergency, then she needs one, yes.
Elderly ladies have already saved themselves from animals,
from criminals and from vengeful ex-husbands with guns,
so we know that the answer to your question is: YES.



I gotta be ME.
U know something, Rex?
Considering the intensity of my gun obsession, since earlier than age 3,
that I remember, sometimes I 've wondered whether in another life,
I was reaching to get a gun, in a life-threatening emergency,
but I did not make it: death from gunlessness, an ignominious way to go out.

Whereas, considering your emotional aversion to guns,
I wonder if in another life, u were accidentally or intentionally killed with a gun.





My former law partner, Elliot, might have gotten someone mad at him.
He told me that he used to carry 2 spare tires in his trunk.
There came a time that he needed them both.


As I recall, AAA requires that u have a "useable spare" tire.
Thay will change it for u.





David

Jeez, I hope those 10 guys with AR-15s in this restaurant don't have keychains! GunFAIL LXXI
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/04/1300329/-Jeez-I-hope-those-10-guys-with-AR-15s-in-this-restaurant-don-t-have-keychains-GunFAIL-LXXI?detail=facebook

You do know, don't you, that there have been several court rulings that say the police are NOT there to protect you, and they are under no obligation to.
They are there to protect society as a whole, not the individual citizen.

I guess the daily kos only has an interest in telling the news from their perspective? I noticed that they didn't include any self-defense cases in their "news report". I guess when you are anti-gun and on the left you don't have to have any journalistic values. Report how you think it should be reported.

That is very true, even when thay have explicitly PROMISED to aid the individual but did not.

I remember seeing a case (real life) on TV,
wherein a woman was recorded on a 911 tape, asking for roadside assistance,
(calling from a fone booth) because her car broke down out in the wilderness,
with her children in it. The tape included the sound of a loud crash,
which turned out to be a big truck colliding with her car and sheering off,
(or crushing down) its left half, killing one of her children.
As I remember, it took over 4O minutes for emergency aid to arrive.
As a NYC Police captain (a Mensa member) once told me:
the police are there to offer the ILLUSION of safety.
Did u pick up on that, Rex?





David

I think that we have disproven the wisdom
of leaving your guns, at home, Rex.





David

Sounds like a word mash to me, compliments of the NRA.

Can you tell me how that society as a whole does not include citizens?

Sounds like the GOP trying to erode public confidence in the police. Just like they like to erode our confidence in our government and our "public servants"...

Just like the GOP have tried to erode police unions. I am surprised in light of these GOP attacks on unions that police even show up for work.

GOP TRAITORS!

You want to blame the erosion of the govt on the GOP? Wow you are a twisted person aren't you. It was a group effort by the D's and the R's. Tell me again who voted to pass the bank bailouts? Who was a fan of the "too big to fail" process? Never forget it was your precious Dems who passed the bailouts. You should be also looking into your own house before you cast stones.

You don't half take your politics seriously over there Baldi.

The money men decide what's to be done balancing greed against discontent.

The Eurozone lowered interest rates yesterday to 0.15%. Inflation is above that and the discontent is graduated on the difference.

There is nobody else to pay the bail-outs but us poor buggers. Arguing about is an add on cost. None of the fuckers arguing about it are contributing, And they dine well I gather.

It was George W. Bush who approved the first bailouts and since the banks had already gambled away our money there was no "credit" available whatsoever. That means zero economic growth. And the robbery of the American peoples money happened while George was in office. There were also incidents of billions of Federal dollars that was, err, "misplaced"...

And THAT is the way the GOP left the economy for the Dems.

And did I forget to mention the two GOP wars left on the American middle class' tab (one of them the longest in US history). The Repugs left the Dems with this mess? Oh yea and with no escape plan also... The GOP bitched when Obama pulled us completely out of Iraq.

House Republicans Launch New Push Against Dodd-Frank
http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/177_132/house-republicans-launch-new-push-against-dodd-frank-1050805-1.html

This Dodd-Franks legislation is the very bill that prevents the banks from gambling away our money AGAIN and the Republicans have openly and without shame fought it... They do as their corporate masters bid them to do regardless of how it hurts average Americans and the middle class.
And let's not forget the regulations on dirty polluting corporations that Republicans have fought tooth and nail so THIS (below) could happen.

Waco Texas Fertilizer Factory Explosion


And this:

Dan River MASSIVE coal ash spill


And this:

North Dakota Oil Train Fire


These are the GOP "accomplishments". (below)

Two massive wars, an economic meltdown, many attempts to try and make the economy EVEN worse, and MANY (often unreported) ecological industrial disasters due to GOP's meddling is sensible safety regulations.

And the BP Gulf of Mexico Deep Water Horizon oil rig spill was caused by corrupt regulators that President Obama inherited from the Bush Administration....

BP was paying Bush's regulators to "look the other way", just like the Koch bros pay the Republicans to do the same. We all know how the GOP love their corporate money tree and hate regulations...

Shall I go on?

And you try and pin this **** on the Democrats? What kind of fool are you? You are only fooling yourself...

The Republicans do not have one single positive accomplishment to be "proud" of.

That has not worked out at all well for them, Spendius;
e.g. billionaire ex-mayor Bloomberg tried to influence
a 2 recall elections in Colorado against anti-gun State legislators
who 'd voted for gun control there. He lost both of those elections
and all of the millions of dollars that he spent against the recalls.
The voters threw out the repressionists.

Billionaire George Soros spent many millions of dollars
against the election of W, who won anyway
(your paranoia to the contrary notwithstanding).





David

Read for yourself and get educated...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=341&issue_id=72004

http://www.copblock.org/27067/police-have-no-duty-to-protect-you/

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=20903

Now, would you explain how you can equate all of this to the GOP?