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Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Mar, 2014 07:46 pm

To whatever extent it is feasible,
the same as kids are taught to swim,
thay shud be taught to handle guns safely, at as early an age as possible.





David
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 05:54 am

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 06:32 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


To whatever extent it is feasible,
the same as kids are taught to swim,
thay shud be taught to handle guns safely, at as early an age as possible.





David


Right!

And they should be allowed to carry guns into their schools during grammar school...and we will become a safer, saner, and more courteous country.

David, what on Earth happens to your reasoning when you are dealing with this issue???
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 07:56 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:


To whatever extent it is feasible,
the same as kids are taught to swim,
thay shud be taught to handle guns safely, at as early an age as possible.





David


Right!

And they should be allowed to carry guns into their schools during grammar school...
and we will become a safer, saner, and more courteous country.

David, what on Earth happens to your reasoning when you are dealing with this issue???
No harm came from MY having done it,
nor from any other youthful citizen of Arizona that I knew of; quiet n peaceful.
We shot our guns on the schools' gunnery ranges; no big deal.
U r very prejudiced against the youth of America. I do not join in your disdain.

(The Blaze/AP) — A 14-year-old boy shot and nearly killed an intruder
who broke into his Phoenix home and pulled a gun on him while
he was watching his three younger siblings, police said Saturday.

The teen and his siblings, ages 8, 10 and 12, were at home alone
when a woman rang the doorbell on Friday. A common enough occurrence,
the boy still chose not to open the door because he didn’t recognize the woman.

Quickly escalating into a far more dangerous situation, the 14-year-old
rushed his siblings upstairs after he heard a loud bang on the door,
grabbing his father’s handgun on the way.

When he got to the top of the stairs, he saw an armed man break
through the front door and point a gun at him.

Acting swiftly, he reportedly shot the 37-year-old man, who was taken
to a hospital in extremely critical condition to undergo surgery. However,
he is expected to survive and will be booked into jail within the week
on counts of aggravated assault and burglary, police Officer James Holmes said.

The suspect did not get a shot off, according to police.
He also declined to release his name until he is booked into jail.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 08:03 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


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Let 's NOT!
Government has been divested of jurisdiction insofar as freedom of guns is concerned,
in the Bill of Rights.

Show me what the Constitution says about cars.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 08:39 am
@Frank Apisa,
Bazookas for graduates.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 11:22 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Bazookas for graduates.


At times. I think that is where some of these guys are heading.

They want everyone armed to the teeth.

Even towns in the wild west days didn't allow that.



OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 12:26 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Those things r inconvenient; awkward, non-viable.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 02:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Even towns in the wild west days didn't allow that.


That's incoherent. If it wasn't allowed it wasn't wild.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 04:25 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Frank wrote:
Even towns in the wild west days didn't allow that.


That's incoherent. If it wasn't allowed it wasn't wild.
Well, in theory, if the towns did things that were un-Constitutional,
those were chaotic and wild, Spendius,
not in good order qua the Supreme Law of the Land.





David
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 06:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You can't have "good order" and "wild".
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 09:56 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
You can't have "good order" and "wild".
Did u fail to SEE the word not,
which I blackened, for your benefit??????

Do u know the meaning
of the word: not ?????????
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 12:18 pm
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 08:18 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
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As a condition of its EXISTENCE, at its inception,
GOVERNMENT WAS DENIED JURISDICTION
OF A CITIZEN'S GUNS
.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 08:37 am

From the NY Daily News:
An Arizona man has reportedly confessed to stabbing his 12-year-old
half brother to death simply because he "felt like killing."

Andrew Ward, 27, was described as standing covered in blood with a knife
in his pocket when he placed a 911 call for his mutilated brother
from a Phoenix Circle K Wednesday.

"He was real shaky and scared. I could see in his eyes something bad
had happened," store worker Kristina Krasovich, who said she let Ward
borrow her cell phone, told ABC15.

In his phone call police say Ward indicated that he had just stabbed someone.
Krasovich said he gave her a thumbs up when she asked if he was OK.


Back at the nearby home Ward shared with his family, police reported
finding his alleged victim barely alive.

Austin Tapia, a sixth grader known for his "infectious smile and caring attitude"
by his school, had been stabbed multiple times before left for dead,
according to police. The boy's mother and sisters returned home
from dinner shortly after to swarming police cars. They told police
that they left the pair home to play video games.




I doubt that the victim had expected THAT to happen.
It was with this broad and general pro-self defense state-of-mind
that I armed myself with a .38 revolver when I was 8, in Arizona.
I wish that this stabbing victim had been as well, or better armed.
I surmise that this stabbing victim had been so injudicious as to be un-armed. He paid the penalty for that.

This case shud be an ORGASMIC DELIGHT to supporters of gun control:
both
predator and victim were fully and 1OO% obedient to ALL gun control laws,
so the victim was completely HELPLESS. That is what the suppressionists LIKE





David
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 09:31 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


From the NY Daily News:
An Arizona man has reportedly confessed to stabbing his 12-year-old
half brother to death simply because he "felt like killing."

Andrew Ward, 27, was described as standing covered in blood with a knife
in his pocket when he placed a 911 call for his mutilated brother
from a Phoenix Circle K Wednesday.

"He was real shaky and scared. I could see in his eyes something bad
had happened," store worker Kristina Krasovich, who said she let Ward
borrow her cell phone, told ABC15.

In his phone call police say Ward indicated that he had just stabbed someone.
Krasovich said he gave her a thumbs up when she asked if he was OK.


Back at the nearby home Ward shared with his family, police reported
finding his alleged victim barely alive.

Austin Tapia, a sixth grader known for his "infectious smile and caring attitude"
by his school, had been stabbed multiple times before left for dead,
according to police. The boy's mother and sisters returned home
from dinner shortly after to swarming police cars. They told police
that they left the pair home to play video games.




I doubt that the victim had expected THAT to happen.
It was with this broad and general pro-self defense state-of-mind
that I armed myself with a .38 revolver when I was 8, in Arizona.
I wish that this stabbing victim had been as well, or better armed.
I surmise that this stabbing victim had been so injudicious as to be un-armed. He paid the penalty for that.

This case shud be an ORGASMIC DELIGHT to supporters of gun control:
both
predator and victim were fully and 1OO% obedient to ALL gun control laws,
so the victim was completely HELPLESS. That is what the suppressionists LIKE





David


Right.

More guns means a kinder, safer, more polite society...as America proves every day...since we are the kindest, most polite, and safest society on the planet, because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 09:54 am
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


From the NY Daily News:
An Arizona man has reportedly confessed to stabbing his 12-year-old
half brother to death simply because he "felt like killing."

Andrew Ward, 27, was described as standing covered in blood with a knife
in his pocket when he placed a 911 call for his mutilated brother
from a Phoenix Circle K Wednesday.

"He was real shaky and scared. I could see in his eyes something bad
had happened," store worker Kristina Krasovich, who said she let Ward
borrow her cell phone, told ABC15.

In his phone call police say Ward indicated that he had just stabbed someone.
Krasovich said he gave her a thumbs up when she asked if he was OK.


Back at the nearby home Ward shared with his family, police reported
finding his alleged victim barely alive.

Austin Tapia, a sixth grader known for his "infectious smile and caring attitude"
by his school, had been stabbed multiple times before left for dead,
according to police. The boy's mother and sisters returned home
from dinner shortly after to swarming police cars. They told police
that they left the pair home to play video games.




I doubt that the victim had expected THAT to happen.
It was with this broad and general pro-self defense state-of-mind
that I armed myself with a .38 revolver when I was 8, in Arizona.
I wish that this stabbing victim had been as well, or better armed.
I surmise that this stabbing victim had been so injudicious as to be un-armed. He paid the penalty for that.

This case shud be an ORGASMIC DELIGHT to supporters of gun control:
both
predator and victim were fully and 1OO% obedient to ALL gun control laws,
so the victim was completely HELPLESS. That is what the suppressionists LIKE





David


Frank Apisa wrote:
Right.

More guns means a kinder, safer, more polite society...
I suspect that guns r not related to kindness
any more than slide-rules.



Frank Apisa wrote:
as America proves every day...
since we are the kindest, most polite, and safest society on the planet,
because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
Yes (except as to kindness).
If I take off my guns to go swimming, I dont feel more nor less kind.
Its important that people actually WEAR THEIR GUNS,
not just forget them n leave them at home.

For all I know, this victim might have had plenty of fine guns,
just beyond his reach at the time.




( In my imagination, I wish that I had been able
to go and let the victim borrow a nice .44 revolver
loaded with hollowpointed slugs, when he was in need. )



David
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 10:01 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:


From the NY Daily News:
An Arizona man has reportedly confessed to stabbing his 12-year-old
half brother to death simply because he "felt like killing."

Andrew Ward, 27, was described as standing covered in blood with a knife
in his pocket when he placed a 911 call for his mutilated brother
from a Phoenix Circle K Wednesday.

"He was real shaky and scared. I could see in his eyes something bad
had happened," store worker Kristina Krasovich, who said she let Ward
borrow her cell phone, told ABC15.

In his phone call police say Ward indicated that he had just stabbed someone.
Krasovich said he gave her a thumbs up when she asked if he was OK.


Back at the nearby home Ward shared with his family, police reported
finding his alleged victim barely alive.

Austin Tapia, a sixth grader known for his "infectious smile and caring attitude"
by his school, had been stabbed multiple times before left for dead,
according to police. The boy's mother and sisters returned home
from dinner shortly after to swarming police cars. They told police
that they left the pair home to play video games.




I doubt that the victim had expected THAT to happen.
It was with this broad and general pro-self defense state-of-mind
that I armed myself with a .38 revolver when I was 8, in Arizona.
I wish that this stabbing victim had been as well, or better armed.
I surmise that this stabbing victim had been so injudicious as to be un-armed. He paid the penalty for that.

This case shud be an ORGASMIC DELIGHT to supporters of gun control:
both
predator and victim were fully and 1OO% obedient to ALL gun control laws,
so the victim was completely HELPLESS. That is what the suppressionists LIKE





David


Frank Apisa wrote:
Right.

More guns means a kinder, safer, more polite society...
I suspect that guns r not related to kindness
any more than slide-rules.



Frank Apisa wrote:
as America proves every day...
since we are the kindest, most polite, and safest society on the planet,
because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
Yes (except as to kindness).
If I take off my guns to go swimming, I dont feel more nor less kind.
Its important that people actually WEAR THEIR GUNS,
not just forget them n leave them at home.

For all I know, this victim might have had plenty of fine guns,
just beyond his reach at the time.




( In my imagination, I wish that I had been able
to go and let the victim borrow a nice .44 revolver
loaded with hollowpointed slugs, when he was in need. )



David


Okay. We can eliminate "kinder."

So you are saying that more guns in the hands of more people makes for a more polite and safer society...as America proves every day...
since we are the most polite, and safest society on the planet,
because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 10:03 am

I wonder whether Rex, woud have let the victim borrow
a .44 revolver, or just watch him get sliced up??

How about it, Rex?
For the sake of argument, let's assume that u had one handy.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 10:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:


From the NY Daily News:
An Arizona man has reportedly confessed to stabbing his 12-year-old
half brother to death simply because he "felt like killing."

Andrew Ward, 27, was described as standing covered in blood with a knife
in his pocket when he placed a 911 call for his mutilated brother
from a Phoenix Circle K Wednesday.

"He was real shaky and scared. I could see in his eyes something bad
had happened," store worker Kristina Krasovich, who said she let Ward
borrow her cell phone, told ABC15.

In his phone call police say Ward indicated that he had just stabbed someone.
Krasovich said he gave her a thumbs up when she asked if he was OK.


Back at the nearby home Ward shared with his family, police reported
finding his alleged victim barely alive.

Austin Tapia, a sixth grader known for his "infectious smile and caring attitude"
by his school, had been stabbed multiple times before left for dead,
according to police. The boy's mother and sisters returned home
from dinner shortly after to swarming police cars. They told police
that they left the pair home to play video games.




I doubt that the victim had expected THAT to happen.
It was with this broad and general pro-self defense state-of-mind
that I armed myself with a .38 revolver when I was 8, in Arizona.
I wish that this stabbing victim had been as well, or better armed.
I surmise that this stabbing victim had been so injudicious as to be un-armed.
He paid the penalty for that.

This case shud be an ORGASMIC DELIGHT to supporters of gun control:
both
predator and victim were fully and 1OO% obedient to ALL gun control laws,
so the victim was completely HELPLESS. That is what the suppressionists LIKE





David


Frank Apisa wrote:
Right.

More guns means a kinder, safer, more polite society...
I suspect that guns r not related to kindness
any more than slide-rules.



Frank Apisa wrote:
as America proves every day...
since we are the kindest, most polite, and safest society on the planet,
because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
Yes (except as to kindness).
If I take off my guns to go swimming, I dont feel more nor less kind.
Its important that people actually WEAR THEIR GUNS,
not just forget them n leave them at home.

For all I know, this victim might have had plenty of fine guns,
just beyond his reach at the time.




( In my imagination, I wish that I had been able
to go and let the victim borrow a nice .44 revolver
loaded with hollowpointed slugs, when he was in need. )



David

Frank Apisa wrote:
Okay. We can eliminate "kinder."

So you are saying that more guns in the hands of more people
makes for a more polite and safer society...
Yes; an armed society is a polite society;
(witness the Japanese culture from their Samurai heritage).





Frank Apisa wrote:
as America proves every day...
since we are the most polite, and safest society on the planet,
because we have more guns per capita than any other country.

RIGHT?????
Yes, but note that I am not
well prepared to argue statistics, for my lack of statistical information.





David
 

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